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Attributes | |
ACN | 475483 |
Time | |
Date | 200006 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : anc.airport |
State Reference | AK |
Altitude | msl single value : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : a11.tracon tower : lga.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-C/F |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : a11.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 9300 |
ASRS Report | 475483 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : private pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 20000 |
ASRS Report | 475377 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
First officer flying visual approach. We were instructed to follow an aircraft which was on final behind another air carrier Z aircraft. Our crew thought that the air carrier Z aircraft (which we had in sight) was the air carrier Y one we were to follow and turned a base leg between the two on final. We were then advised that we had turned between the two and to break off our base leg, leveloff and do a 270 degree turn to a final behind the air carrier Y aircraft. Safety was not compromised as we were never closer than several mi from either aircraft and inconvenienced no one other than ourselves. Landing was uneventful. Specific information that there were 2 aircraft on final given to us by the controller may have prevented us from turning base too soon. TCASII was not activated as there was no conflict.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B747 CREW TURNED INSIDE THE ACFT THEY WERE CLRED TO FOLLOW.
Narrative: FO FLYING VISUAL APCH. WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO FOLLOW AN ACFT WHICH WAS ON FINAL BEHIND ANOTHER ACR Z ACFT. OUR CREW THOUGHT THAT THE ACR Z ACFT (WHICH WE HAD IN SIGHT) WAS THE ACR Y ONE WE WERE TO FOLLOW AND TURNED A BASE LEG BTWN THE TWO ON FINAL. WE WERE THEN ADVISED THAT WE HAD TURNED BTWN THE TWO AND TO BREAK OFF OUR BASE LEG, LEVELOFF AND DO A 270 DEG TURN TO A FINAL BEHIND THE ACR Y ACFT. SAFETY WAS NOT COMPROMISED AS WE WERE NEVER CLOSER THAN SEVERAL MI FROM EITHER ACFT AND INCONVENIENCED NO ONE OTHER THAN OURSELVES. LNDG WAS UNEVENTFUL. SPECIFIC INFO THAT THERE WERE 2 ACFT ON FINAL GIVEN TO US BY THE CTLR MAY HAVE PREVENTED US FROM TURNING BASE TOO SOON. TCASII WAS NOT ACTIVATED AS THERE WAS NO CONFLICT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.