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Attributes | |
ACN | 477600 |
Time | |
Date | 200006 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : rdu.vor |
State Reference | NS |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm Rain Turbulence |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 224 flight time total : 5700 flight time type : 224 |
ASRS Report | 477600 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9175 flight time type : 2175 |
ASRS Report | 477126 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : turbulence inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
ATC controller gave a clearance for us to 'descend from FL330 to FL290.' no mention was made to expedite. Our reply was 'is it smooth at FL290?' the controller responded 'I don't have time to tell you, descend for traffic.' we proceeded to then 'descend' to FL290 at 2000 FPM. Problem: communication/courtesy between controller and pilots. Factors: high workload on controller, thunderstorms, deviating aircraft (tense airspace situation). Supplemental information from acn 477126: since there were numerous thunderstorms in the area, we asked him for a ride report as we initiated the descent. We continued to comply with the clearance he gave us, but why he got so upset, so quickly, was unknown.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HARSH WORDS DELIVERED FROM ARTCC TO AN ACR CREW.
Narrative: ATC CTLR GAVE A CLRNC FOR US TO 'DSND FROM FL330 TO FL290.' NO MENTION WAS MADE TO EXPEDITE. OUR REPLY WAS 'IS IT SMOOTH AT FL290?' THE CTLR RESPONDED 'I DON'T HAVE TIME TO TELL YOU, DSND FOR TFC.' WE PROCEEDED TO THEN 'DSND' TO FL290 AT 2000 FPM. PROB: COM/COURTESY BTWN CTLR AND PLTS. FACTORS: HIGH WORKLOAD ON CTLR, TSTMS, DEVIATING ACFT (TENSE AIRSPACE SIT). SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 477126: SINCE THERE WERE NUMEROUS TSTMS IN THE AREA, WE ASKED HIM FOR A RIDE RPT AS WE INITIATED THE DSCNT. WE CONTINUED TO COMPLY WITH THE CLRNC HE GAVE US, BUT WHY HE GOT SO UPSET, SO QUICKLY, WAS UNKNOWN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.