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Attributes | |
ACN | 478186 |
Time | |
Date | 200007 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mia.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Rain Thunderstorm |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mia.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mia.tower |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5400 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 478186 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : executed go around |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport Weather ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : mia.tower |
Narrative:
Mia international was experiencing hit and miss rainshower activity and wet runways prevailed. We were 'cleared to land runway 9R' by the mia tower. Touchdown was within touchdown zone and autobrakes were selected to 1. We were rolling out long to turn off at the end of runway 9R, so we could taxi right into the ramp. On rollout, tower asked us to turn left as we were passing taxiway T5. I informed him that we were unable because of our speed. Then tower told us to hold short of runway 12. At this time we used maximum braking commensurate with safety. Due to the wet runway, our braking effectiveness was reduced and the nose of the aircraft crossed over the hold short lines for runway 12. We informed the tower that we were over the hold short lines. The airplane landing runway 12 was instructed to go around. The remainder of the flight was uneventful. Tower never issued a lahso clearance, and it is my understanding that you cannot conduct lahso's with wet runways. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter advised the flight crew quickly discussed that they would attempt the hold short, but began skidding due to the wet surface and braking effort. Unable to stop short of the runway, they advised of their incursion. The flight crew later discussed the question of the clearance, but did not consider it to be a lahso clearance due to existing wet runway conditions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 FLC UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH MIA TWR HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTION AT INTERSECTING RWY DUE TO SPD AND WET RWY CONDITION CAUSING GAR.
Narrative: MIA INTL WAS EXPERIENCING HIT AND MISS RAINSHOWER ACTIVITY AND WET RWYS PREVAILED. WE WERE 'CLRED TO LAND RWY 9R' BY THE MIA TWR. TOUCHDOWN WAS WITHIN TOUCHDOWN ZONE AND AUTOBRAKES WERE SELECTED TO 1. WE WERE ROLLING OUT LONG TO TURN OFF AT THE END OF RWY 9R, SO WE COULD TAXI RIGHT INTO THE RAMP. ON ROLLOUT, TWR ASKED US TO TURN L AS WE WERE PASSING TXWY T5. I INFORMED HIM THAT WE WERE UNABLE BECAUSE OF OUR SPD. THEN TWR TOLD US TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 12. AT THIS TIME WE USED MAX BRAKING COMMENSURATE WITH SAFETY. DUE TO THE WET RWY, OUR BRAKING EFFECTIVENESS WAS REDUCED AND THE NOSE OF THE ACFT CROSSED OVER THE HOLD SHORT LINES FOR RWY 12. WE INFORMED THE TWR THAT WE WERE OVER THE HOLD SHORT LINES. THE AIRPLANE LNDG RWY 12 WAS INSTRUCTED TO GO AROUND. THE REMAINDER OF THE FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL. TWR NEVER ISSUED A LAHSO CLRNC, AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU CANNOT CONDUCT LAHSO'S WITH WET RWYS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR ADVISED THE FLC QUICKLY DISCUSSED THAT THEY WOULD ATTEMPT THE HOLD SHORT, BUT BEGAN SKIDDING DUE TO THE WET SURFACE AND BRAKING EFFORT. UNABLE TO STOP SHORT OF THE RWY, THEY ADVISED OF THEIR INCURSION. THE FLC LATER DISCUSSED THE QUESTION OF THE CLRNC, BUT DID NOT CONSIDER IT TO BE A LAHSO CLRNC DUE TO EXISTING WET RWY CONDITIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.