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Attributes | |
ACN | 287058 |
Time | |
Date | 199410 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : vgt |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : avl |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : go around landing other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 49 flight time total : 1914 |
ASRS Report | 287058 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 30 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
In landing at north las vegas airport, made hard landing on runway 30, and aircraft began to porpoise. Tried to recover, but was unable to, so called to tower 'going around,' and gave full throttle. Missed a plane that was landing runway 7 by approximately 30 ft. If the 'go around' had not been made our aircraft would have been severely damaged with possible injury to the passenger. Contributing factors: approached north las vegas from the east and was at approximately 1000 ft AGL. Tower cleared us to land on runway 7 approximately 1/4 mi from the end of runway 7. Notified tower 'unable to land' (air speed was approximately 120 kph. Were cleared for a right downwind for runway 30. By that time we were unable to comply. Tower was busy and directed us north until told to return. When instructed to return, made a poor landing on runway 30 and porpoised. Other contributing factors: 2 low time pilots were on board who were also giving me landing and runway instructions. Made the mistake of not telling them to 'be quiet, and let me fly the plane.' tower asked me to call them after landing, which I did. The controller was justifiably upset over the near miss, but never did ask me why it was necessary for me to 'go around.' suggestions to correct the situation on my part: do not permit others in the aircraft to give landing instructions when the pilot has problems. I know how to correct my mistakes, they don't. Suggestions to correct the situation on ATC's part: be more aware of pilots new to the area. North las vegas is a particularly difficult airport to locate from a distance and at several thousand ft AGL. We understand that the area is congested, but that makes it even more difficult. Also, do not let exasperation come through in their voices.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA X LOSS OF ACFT CTL EXECUTED A GAR HAD NMAC WITH Y ON INTERSECTING RWY. NON COMPLIANCE WITH ATC INSTRUCTION.
Narrative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
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.