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Attributes | |
ACN | 480648 |
Time | |
Date | 200008 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : iai.vortac |
State Reference | HI |
Altitude | msl single value : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhn.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 10 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : pacific |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 4600 |
ASRS Report | 480648 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 480821 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 4 |
Resolutory Action | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Company |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
When we made our tacco report to sfo and asked for FL350, the sfo commercial radio operator said he 'had copied down we were at FL350 already when he took the tuuts report.' we had reported FL330 at abeam tuuts as we were cleared direct tacco. After giving him the tacco report, he called back at XA31Z to 'say time over tacco' as he had written AA31 when we gave him XA13Z. He seems to have a problem with numbers. We gave the correct altitude when we called.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC10 CREW HAD COMMERCIAL RADIO OPERATOR COPY POS RPT WRONG.
Narrative: WHEN WE MADE OUR TACCO RPT TO SFO AND ASKED FOR FL350, THE SFO COMMERCIAL RADIO OPERATOR SAID HE 'HAD COPIED DOWN WE WERE AT FL350 ALREADY WHEN HE TOOK THE TUUTS RPT.' WE HAD RPTED FL330 AT ABEAM TUUTS AS WE WERE CLRED DIRECT TACCO. AFTER GIVING HIM THE TACCO RPT, HE CALLED BACK AT XA31Z TO 'SAY TIME OVER TACCO' AS HE HAD WRITTEN AA31 WHEN WE GAVE HIM XA13Z. HE SEEMS TO HAVE A PROB WITH NUMBERS. WE GAVE THE CORRECT ALT WHEN WE CALLED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.