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Attributes | |
ACN | 480721 |
Time | |
Date | 200007 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mmsd.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 7500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Rain Thunderstorm Turbulence Windshear |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-83 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 480721 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : diverted to alternate |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather Company |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
An airline crew, flying an MD83 to sjd complains of inadequate planning information for the flight. They added fuel. Dispatch added more fuel for en route WX and a new release was issued. On arrival, WX was worse than expected and flight diverted to the alternate. The diversion was handled poorly by the company dispatch. Very little information was made available to the crew. The WX improved and they were redispatched to sjd. The crew found that for the next leg they were over legal limits of flight time. A disagreement arose about the time, and management was unavailable to sort it out. Ultimately, the next leg was flown once an unsatisfactory conference with manager was finally arranged. The crew sees the problem as -- causes: no communication with dispatch. Understaffing, poor dispatch management and organization, poor flight oversight, poor communication system. Adverse WX: poor WX reporting from sjd, poor WX information dissemination in lax. Inadequate time to prepare due to: lack of warning about adverse WX, lack of fuel, limited landing options, difficult communication with foreign controller, lack of radar coverage, lack of procedures for breaking off approach early, but being unable to comply with missed approach procedures. Scheduling: inadequate reserve staffing, lack of uniform scheduling procedures, misinterp of FARS. Corrective actions: better communication, more attention given by dispatchers to individual flts, more dispatchers to reduce the dispatcher/flight ratio, better communication system, better fuel planning for areas of limited options, planning emphasis still needs more of a shift toward safety rather than meeting operational needs, uniform interps and applications of FARS, scheduling must incorporate more thoughts regarding safety rather than always trying to meet operational needs, radar coverage, improve WX dissemination in lax, improve WX reporting in sjd.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AIRLINE CREW COMPLAINS OF INADEQUATE SUPPORT FROM THEIR COMPANY FOR FOREIGN OP.
Narrative: AN AIRLINE CREW, FLYING AN MD83 TO SJD COMPLAINS OF INADEQUATE PLANNING INFO FOR THE FLT. THEY ADDED FUEL. DISPATCH ADDED MORE FUEL FOR ENRTE WX AND A NEW RELEASE WAS ISSUED. ON ARR, WX WAS WORSE THAN EXPECTED AND FLT DIVERTED TO THE ALTERNATE. THE DIVERSION WAS HANDLED POORLY BY THE COMPANY DISPATCH. VERY LITTLE INFO WAS MADE AVAILABLE TO THE CREW. THE WX IMPROVED AND THEY WERE REDISPATCHED TO SJD. THE CREW FOUND THAT FOR THE NEXT LEG THEY WERE OVER LEGAL LIMITS OF FLT TIME. A DISAGREEMENT AROSE ABOUT THE TIME, AND MGMNT WAS UNAVAILABLE TO SORT IT OUT. ULTIMATELY, THE NEXT LEG WAS FLOWN ONCE AN UNSATISFACTORY CONFERENCE WITH MGR WAS FINALLY ARRANGED. THE CREW SEES THE PROB AS -- CAUSES: NO COM WITH DISPATCH. UNDERSTAFFING, POOR DISPATCH MGMNT AND ORGANIZATION, POOR FLT OVERSIGHT, POOR COM SYS. ADVERSE WX: POOR WX RPTING FROM SJD, POOR WX INFO DISSEMINATION IN LAX. INADEQUATE TIME TO PREPARE DUE TO: LACK OF WARNING ABOUT ADVERSE WX, LACK OF FUEL, LIMITED LNDG OPTIONS, DIFFICULT COM WITH FOREIGN CTLR, LACK OF RADAR COVERAGE, LACK OF PROCS FOR BREAKING OFF APCH EARLY, BUT BEING UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH MISSED APCH PROCS. SCHEDULING: INADEQUATE RESERVE STAFFING, LACK OF UNIFORM SCHEDULING PROCS, MISINTERP OF FARS. CORRECTIVE ACTIONS: BETTER COM, MORE ATTN GIVEN BY DISPATCHERS TO INDIVIDUAL FLTS, MORE DISPATCHERS TO REDUCE THE DISPATCHER/FLT RATIO, BETTER COM SYS, BETTER FUEL PLANNING FOR AREAS OF LIMITED OPTIONS, PLANNING EMPHASIS STILL NEEDS MORE OF A SHIFT TOWARD SAFETY RATHER THAN MEETING OPERATIONAL NEEDS, UNIFORM INTERPS AND APPLICATIONS OF FARS, SCHEDULING MUST INCORPORATE MORE THOUGHTS REGARDING SAFETY RATHER THAN ALWAYS TRYING TO MEET OPERATIONAL NEEDS, RADAR COVERAGE, IMPROVE WX DISSEMINATION IN LAX, IMPROVE WX RPTING IN SJD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.