Unable to stop short of hold short line account late clearance at bos, ma.

Attributes
ACN	482412
Time
Date	200008
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : bos.airport
State Reference	MA
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : bos.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737-200
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : holding ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : multi engine
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 3600 flight time type : 40
ASRS Report	482412
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Facility ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Airport
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance

Narrative:

Bos was departing traffic on runway 22, arriving on runway 27. We needed runway 33L due to restr allowable takeoff weight. Taxi congestion and radio xmissions were a nightmare. Estimate 20+ aircraft arriving and departing at this time. We departed gate but needed to go 'against the flow' for runway 33L while all others were going to runway 22L/right. Several radio calls required to get our request for runway 33L. Told to taxi to runway 33L but we were 'nose to nose' with traffic going to runway 22L/right. Were told traffic was giving way to us. While approaching to cross runway 22R, were told to 'hold short' of runway 22R but were across the hold short line but not on or across runway 22R yet. There was no conflict since no one was departing or arriving on runway 22R at that time. Finally cleared to cross runway 22R&left to runway 33L. Ground control was overloaded but courteous and professional. Too many aircraft in a small area, combined with the limits of the B737-200 compared to more modern jets creates conflicts.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: UNABLE TO STOP SHORT OF HOLD SHORT LINE ACCOUNT LATE CLRNC AT BOS, MA.

Narrative: BOS WAS DEPARTING TFC ON RWY 22, ARRIVING ON RWY 27. WE NEEDED RWY 33L DUE TO RESTR ALLOWABLE TKOF WT. TAXI CONGESTION AND RADIO XMISSIONS WERE A NIGHTMARE. ESTIMATE 20+ ACFT ARRIVING AND DEPARTING AT THIS TIME. WE DEPARTED GATE BUT NEEDED TO GO 'AGAINST THE FLOW' FOR RWY 33L WHILE ALL OTHERS WERE GOING TO RWY 22L/R. SEVERAL RADIO CALLS REQUIRED TO GET OUR REQUEST FOR RWY 33L. TOLD TO TAXI TO RWY 33L BUT WE WERE 'NOSE TO NOSE' WITH TFC GOING TO RWY 22L/R. WERE TOLD TFC WAS GIVING WAY TO US. WHILE APCHING TO CROSS RWY 22R, WERE TOLD TO 'HOLD SHORT' OF RWY 22R BUT WERE ACROSS THE HOLD SHORT LINE BUT NOT ON OR ACROSS RWY 22R YET. THERE WAS NO CONFLICT SINCE NO ONE WAS DEPARTING OR ARRIVING ON RWY 22R AT THAT TIME. FINALLY CLRED TO CROSS RWY 22R&L TO RWY 33L. GND CTL WAS OVERLOADED BUT COURTEOUS AND PROFESSIONAL. TOO MANY ACFT IN A SMALL AREA, COMBINED WITH THE LIMITS OF THE B737-200 COMPARED TO MORE MODERN JETS CREATES CONFLICTS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.