37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 482532 |
Time | |
Date | 200008 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : n90.tracon |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : jfk.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : merit 2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 1800 |
ASRS Report | 482533 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 86 flight time total : 9037 flight time type : 2937 |
ASRS Report | 483023 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : provided flight assist none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
I was captain of rescheduled B747 flight from jfk to eham (amsterdam). We picked up clearance via ACARS which read 'merit 2 departure put transition runway heading to 1.5 DME then TR heading 100 degrees.' the ATIS specified departures on runway 31L. This clearance is unusual for runway 31L due to proximity of lga airport. However the merit 2 departure specifies radar vectors if no specific coded climb is assigned. Since this was our situation it made sense. It was just unusual not to turn left off runway 31L. I made a note to verify our clearance with the tower. We were assigned runway 31L for taxi. We were cleared for takeoff with no further instructions. Handed off to departure, I reported climbing to 5000 ft and in the right turn to 100 degrees. The reply was 'roger, climb to 7000 ft.' after a few seconds we were told to tighten the turn and maintain 3000 ft, then tighten the turn heading 130 degrees maintain 2000 ft. We saw traffic for lga off our left at about 1 mi. ATC asked what our departure clearance was. When we told him, he said the tower had originally cleared us to runway 4L, and that those instructions were for that runway, and when they gave us runway 31L they expected us to fly one of the specific l-hand profiles, even though we were never told which one. First of all, we never had any mention of runway 4L whatsoever. Also, we found out through our company people that our clearance was issued 2 hours earlier when runway 4L was in use, and then it was never updated for us. I'm upset that this oversight was made by jfk. I'm upset at the ridiculous explanation they gave us, and of course I'm upset with myself for not second-guessing an unusual clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC FLYING A B747-200 FROM JFK FAILS TO VERIFY THEIR PDC WITH TWR RESULTING IN A TRACK DEV AND TFC CONFLICT.
Narrative: I WAS CAPT OF RESCHEDULED B747 FLT FROM JFK TO EHAM (AMSTERDAM). WE PICKED UP CLRNC VIA ACARS WHICH READ 'MERIT 2 DEP PUT TRANSITION RWY HDG TO 1.5 DME THEN TR HDG 100 DEGS.' THE ATIS SPECIFIED DEPS ON RWY 31L. THIS CLRNC IS UNUSUAL FOR RWY 31L DUE TO PROX OF LGA ARPT. HOWEVER THE MERIT 2 DEP SPECIFIES RADAR VECTORS IF NO SPECIFIC CODED CLB IS ASSIGNED. SINCE THIS WAS OUR SIT IT MADE SENSE. IT WAS JUST UNUSUAL NOT TO TURN L OFF RWY 31L. I MADE A NOTE TO VERIFY OUR CLRNC WITH THE TWR. WE WERE ASSIGNED RWY 31L FOR TAXI. WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF WITH NO FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS. HANDED OFF TO DEP, I RPTED CLBING TO 5000 FT AND IN THE R TURN TO 100 DEGS. THE REPLY WAS 'ROGER, CLB TO 7000 FT.' AFTER A FEW SECONDS WE WERE TOLD TO TIGHTEN THE TURN AND MAINTAIN 3000 FT, THEN TIGHTEN THE TURN HDG 130 DEGS MAINTAIN 2000 FT. WE SAW TFC FOR LGA OFF OUR L AT ABOUT 1 MI. ATC ASKED WHAT OUR DEP CLRNC WAS. WHEN WE TOLD HIM, HE SAID THE TWR HAD ORIGINALLY CLRED US TO RWY 4L, AND THAT THOSE INSTRUCTIONS WERE FOR THAT RWY, AND WHEN THEY GAVE US RWY 31L THEY EXPECTED US TO FLY ONE OF THE SPECIFIC L-HAND PROFILES, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE NEVER TOLD WHICH ONE. FIRST OF ALL, WE NEVER HAD ANY MENTION OF RWY 4L WHATSOEVER. ALSO, WE FOUND OUT THROUGH OUR COMPANY PEOPLE THAT OUR CLRNC WAS ISSUED 2 HRS EARLIER WHEN RWY 4L WAS IN USE, AND THEN IT WAS NEVER UPDATED FOR US. I'M UPSET THAT THIS OVERSIGHT WAS MADE BY JFK. I'M UPSET AT THE RIDICULOUS EXPLANATION THEY GAVE US, AND OF COURSE I'M UPSET WITH MYSELF FOR NOT SECOND-GUESSING AN UNUSUAL CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.