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Attributes | |
ACN | 483206 |
Time | |
Date | 200008 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : roc.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : pdx.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 483206 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 212 flight time total : 3190 flight time type : 1690 |
ASRS Report | 483207 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : assigned or threatened penalties faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were given instructions to 'taxi runway 10, hold short runway 22.' as we were crossing the runway 28/10 hold short, we were told to hold short. The first call we didn't hear all of the transmission due to taxi checklist being completed. First officer asked to 'say again,' and the hold short clearance was repeated immediately followed by the instructions to cross runway 28. After clearing first officer stated it was too late to hold short. After departing on runway 10, departure told us to call ATC. Upon arrival in bwi for possible pilot deviation. The first officer and myself were confused to what had actually gone wrong. Did we hear the initial clearance wrong or did we just not stop quickly enough. Holding short of runway 28 when instructed was impossible because we had already crossed the hold short line. Contributing factors: roc has a large number of taxiway and runway closures due to construction and preparations for an air show that weekend. Upon landing 25 mins prior we had taxied in on runway 10/28, and on taxi out we were following a DC9 taxiing out on runway 10, also with clearance to hold short runway 22. Corrective action: this event is being investigated so as to determine what went wrong, so corrective action can be taken. There was no traffic anywhere in the are except us and the DC9.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC FLYING A DHC8 AT ROC FAILED TO COMPLY WITH ATC TAXI INSTRUCTIONS RESULTING IN A RWY INCURSION.
Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS TO 'TAXI RWY 10, HOLD SHORT RWY 22.' AS WE WERE XING THE RWY 28/10 HOLD SHORT, WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD SHORT. THE FIRST CALL WE DIDN'T HEAR ALL OF THE XMISSION DUE TO TAXI CHKLIST BEING COMPLETED. FO ASKED TO 'SAY AGAIN,' AND THE HOLD SHORT CLRNC WAS REPEATED IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED BY THE INSTRUCTIONS TO CROSS RWY 28. AFTER CLRING FO STATED IT WAS TOO LATE TO HOLD SHORT. AFTER DEPARTING ON RWY 10, DEP TOLD US TO CALL ATC. UPON ARR IN BWI FOR POSSIBLE PLTDEV. THE FO AND MYSELF WERE CONFUSED TO WHAT HAD ACTUALLY GONE WRONG. DID WE HEAR THE INITIAL CLRNC WRONG OR DID WE JUST NOT STOP QUICKLY ENOUGH. HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 28 WHEN INSTRUCTED WAS IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE WE HAD ALREADY CROSSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: ROC HAS A LARGE NUMBER OF TXWY AND RWY CLOSURES DUE TO CONSTRUCTION AND PREPARATIONS FOR AN AIR SHOW THAT WEEKEND. UPON LNDG 25 MINS PRIOR WE HAD TAXIED IN ON RWY 10/28, AND ON TAXI OUT WE WERE FOLLOWING A DC9 TAXIING OUT ON RWY 10, ALSO WITH CLRNC TO HOLD SHORT RWY 22. CORRECTIVE ACTION: THIS EVENT IS BEING INVESTIGATED SO AS TO DETERMINE WHAT WENT WRONG, SO CORRECTIVE ACTION CAN BE TAKEN. THERE WAS NO TFC ANYWHERE IN THE ARE EXCEPT US AND THE DC9.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.