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Attributes | |
ACN | 483271 |
Time | |
Date | 200008 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zny.artcc |
State Reference | NY |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller non radar : 16 controller radar : 16 controller time certified in position1 : 5 |
ASRS Report | 483271 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance FAA |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : zny.artcc |
Narrative:
This form is not about specific aircraft separation -- it is about the unacceptable way that we (the controllers) are expected to ensure separation. In the oceanic sectors at ZNY, the maps that we use are several yrs old. They are just penned in with changes. There is no scale/distance indicator, no dates or signatures for responsibility, and not all of the maps are the same scale. There are no measuring tools provided for accuracy, and to determine if an aircraft is crossing or head-on we fold a piece of paper at 45 degrees (give or take a degree or 2). (I actually went to the store and bought a 45 degree angle from the kid's school supplies $1.29.) we use grease pencils to draw angles on the maps. The line is actually several mi wide because the pencils are fat. Also, the maps are up on the 'overheads' approximately 5 ft high. I cannot reach most of the map to draw out angles. The whole system is old and inaccurate. I am expected to not make mistakes, but am not given the tools to do it right!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZNY CTLR CONCERNED WITH CTLR APPLICATION OF SEPARATION STANDARDS AND CHARTING.
Narrative: THIS FORM IS NOT ABOUT SPECIFIC ACFT SEPARATION -- IT IS ABOUT THE UNACCEPTABLE WAY THAT WE (THE CTLRS) ARE EXPECTED TO ENSURE SEPARATION. IN THE OCEANIC SECTORS AT ZNY, THE MAPS THAT WE USE ARE SEVERAL YRS OLD. THEY ARE JUST PENNED IN WITH CHANGES. THERE IS NO SCALE/DISTANCE INDICATOR, NO DATES OR SIGNATURES FOR RESPONSIBILITY, AND NOT ALL OF THE MAPS ARE THE SAME SCALE. THERE ARE NO MEASURING TOOLS PROVIDED FOR ACCURACY, AND TO DETERMINE IF AN ACFT IS XING OR HEAD-ON WE FOLD A PIECE OF PAPER AT 45 DEGS (GIVE OR TAKE A DEG OR 2). (I ACTUALLY WENT TO THE STORE AND BOUGHT A 45 DEG ANGLE FROM THE KID'S SCHOOL SUPPLIES $1.29.) WE USE GREASE PENCILS TO DRAW ANGLES ON THE MAPS. THE LINE IS ACTUALLY SEVERAL MI WIDE BECAUSE THE PENCILS ARE FAT. ALSO, THE MAPS ARE UP ON THE 'OVERHEADS' APPROX 5 FT HIGH. I CANNOT REACH MOST OF THE MAP TO DRAW OUT ANGLES. THE WHOLE SYS IS OLD AND INACCURATE. I AM EXPECTED TO NOT MAKE MISTAKES, BUT AM NOT GIVEN THE TOOLS TO DO IT RIGHT!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.