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Attributes | |
ACN | 484170 |
Time | |
Date | 200009 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 484170 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airport Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Facility |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
After landing runway 24R north complex, I was taxiing via bridge route. Had to make several calls to ground control to even get an answer. Finally got clearance to taxi via taxiway B to the gate after passing intersection south. A few seconds later, a B767 was clearing runway 25R at intersection north which could have been a conflict. He stopped his aircraft while several xmissions were blocked. At no time did I ever hear or acknowledge give way to company B767 at taxiway north -- besides it was way too late to stop the aircraft at that time. Next, ground curtly told us we had passed our company aircraft and to take C10 to the gate which was gate ab previously ground told us to give way to an air carrier Z aircraft on taxiway C and pass behind him to the gate. Upon seeing the air carrier Z aircraft coming toward us on taxiway C, we stopped to give way, then ground control yelled at us to keep moving. We were blocking an aircraft trying to clear the runway behind us. If ground control wants us to do something different from a previous clearance they have to be clear. I am also not a mind reader. If they want me to give way to another aircraft, they must make sure we acknowledge it. I cannot adequately respond to ground controllers that yell conflicting instructions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLRNC CONFUSION WITH MULTIPLE ACFT AND CLRNC CHANGES ON THE GND AT LOS ANGELES, CA.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG RWY 24R N COMPLEX, I WAS TAXIING VIA BRIDGE RTE. HAD TO MAKE SEVERAL CALLS TO GND CTL TO EVEN GET AN ANSWER. FINALLY GOT CLRNC TO TAXI VIA TXWY B TO THE GATE AFTER PASSING INTXN S. A FEW SECONDS LATER, A B767 WAS CLRING RWY 25R AT INTXN N WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN A CONFLICT. HE STOPPED HIS ACFT WHILE SEVERAL XMISSIONS WERE BLOCKED. AT NO TIME DID I EVER HEAR OR ACKNOWLEDGE GIVE WAY TO COMPANY B767 AT TXWY N -- BESIDES IT WAS WAY TOO LATE TO STOP THE ACFT AT THAT TIME. NEXT, GND CURTLY TOLD US WE HAD PASSED OUR COMPANY ACFT AND TO TAKE C10 TO THE GATE WHICH WAS GATE AB PREVIOUSLY GND TOLD US TO GIVE WAY TO AN ACR Z ACFT ON TXWY C AND PASS BEHIND HIM TO THE GATE. UPON SEEING THE ACR Z ACFT COMING TOWARD US ON TXWY C, WE STOPPED TO GIVE WAY, THEN GND CTL YELLED AT US TO KEEP MOVING. WE WERE BLOCKING AN ACFT TRYING TO CLR THE RWY BEHIND US. IF GND CTL WANTS US TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM A PREVIOUS CLRNC THEY HAVE TO BE CLR. I AM ALSO NOT A MIND READER. IF THEY WANT ME TO GIVE WAY TO ANOTHER ACFT, THEY MUST MAKE SURE WE ACKNOWLEDGE IT. I CANNOT ADEQUATELY RESPOND TO GND CTLRS THAT YELL CONFLICTING INSTRUCTIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.