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Attributes | |
ACN | 486240 |
Time | |
Date | 200009 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mdw.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mdw.tower tracon : lnk.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 486240 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 224 flight time total : 8904 flight time type : 1107 |
ASRS Report | 486155 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Company Flight Crew Human Performance Maintenance Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Midway (mdw) ground controller told us to 'cross runway 22L with no delay, hold short runway 22R.' the captain stopped the aircraft with the nose gear across the runway 22R hold short line. There was an aircraft on runway 4L waiting for takeoff clearance. We asked the controller if we are cleared across runway 22R. He said hold short. The controller then saw our position on the taxiway and cleared us across runway 22R, no delay. Supplemental information from acn 486155: while making the 90 degree turn for runway 4R hold short line, ground control instructed us to, '...keep it coming around, cross runway 4R, hold short of runway 4L, traffic on a 2 (or 3?) mi final for runway 4R.' I pushed up throttles #1 and #2, #3 was not yet started for fuel conservation reasons. I worried about the jet blast. Earlier I asked the first officer to ask ground how much of a delay to expect during his next transmission. We still needed to start #3. He forgot. I remind him. Now he asks during the readback. I look at the approach end of runway 13C and see a B737 and guess we are following him. We are rapidly approaching the runway 4L hold short line and the flight engineer says, 'are we cleared to cross?' I immediately stop. Contributing factors: preflight preparations were rushed. I got the paperwork from operations about 45 mins prior to pushback time. Got to the aircraft and did preflight. We were near our runway performance limit and needed to select the appropriate runway. Gate agents had questions about how many people to board (overbooked, company limit 160, we crunch the numbers and can take 173 passenger if we use runway 13C). After fueling, there's a discrepancy between the fuel truck reading and the actual fuel onboard. Per aircraft operating manual, we contact appropriate people. This takes time to solve. We push off the gate only 5 mins late and I'm frazzled. We needed to conserve fuel due to florida WX. Runway 4L had been notamed closed for several days and was closed when we taxied in 1 hour 15 mins prior. It had just opened. I have been trying to incorporate verbalizing ATC readbacks to the crew within the last 2 months, so the crew can correct me if I misunderstand. Things were too hectic during the 90 degree turn and runway crossing and this time I didn't do it. I'll do it in the future. Have controllers tell pilots only 1 or 2 things at a time (ie, 'cross runway 4R. Hold short runway 4L'). When I'm on a runway taxiing, it's like I have the runway to myself. We don't do lahso so when I'm on a runway, I hurry to get off and clear. I don't think taxiing around on runways is a good idea.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B727-200 FLC CROSSES OVER THE HOLD SHORT LINE WHEN OVER-BURDENED WITH DISTRACTIONS AT MDW, IL.
Narrative: MIDWAY (MDW) GND CTLR TOLD US TO 'CROSS RWY 22L WITH NO DELAY, HOLD SHORT RWY 22R.' THE CAPT STOPPED THE ACFT WITH THE NOSE GEAR ACROSS THE RWY 22R HOLD SHORT LINE. THERE WAS AN ACFT ON RWY 4L WAITING FOR TKOF CLRNC. WE ASKED THE CTLR IF WE ARE CLRED ACROSS RWY 22R. HE SAID HOLD SHORT. THE CTLR THEN SAW OUR POS ON THE TXWY AND CLRED US ACROSS RWY 22R, NO DELAY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 486155: WHILE MAKING THE 90 DEG TURN FOR RWY 4R HOLD SHORT LINE, GND CTL INSTRUCTED US TO, '...KEEP IT COMING AROUND, CROSS RWY 4R, HOLD SHORT OF RWY 4L, TFC ON A 2 (OR 3?) MI FINAL FOR RWY 4R.' I PUSHED UP THROTTLES #1 AND #2, #3 WAS NOT YET STARTED FOR FUEL CONSERVATION REASONS. I WORRIED ABOUT THE JET BLAST. EARLIER I ASKED THE FO TO ASK GND HOW MUCH OF A DELAY TO EXPECT DURING HIS NEXT XMISSION. WE STILL NEEDED TO START #3. HE FORGOT. I REMIND HIM. NOW HE ASKS DURING THE READBACK. I LOOK AT THE APCH END OF RWY 13C AND SEE A B737 AND GUESS WE ARE FOLLOWING HIM. WE ARE RAPIDLY APCHING THE RWY 4L HOLD SHORT LINE AND THE FE SAYS, 'ARE WE CLRED TO CROSS?' I IMMEDIATELY STOP. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: PREFLT PREPARATIONS WERE RUSHED. I GOT THE PAPERWORK FROM OPS ABOUT 45 MINS PRIOR TO PUSHBACK TIME. GOT TO THE ACFT AND DID PREFLT. WE WERE NEAR OUR RWY PERFORMANCE LIMIT AND NEEDED TO SELECT THE APPROPRIATE RWY. GATE AGENTS HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE TO BOARD (OVERBOOKED, COMPANY LIMIT 160, WE CRUNCH THE NUMBERS AND CAN TAKE 173 PAX IF WE USE RWY 13C). AFTER FUELING, THERE'S A DISCREPANCY BTWN THE FUEL TRUCK READING AND THE ACTUAL FUEL ONBOARD. PER ACFT OPERATING MANUAL, WE CONTACT APPROPRIATE PEOPLE. THIS TAKES TIME TO SOLVE. WE PUSH OFF THE GATE ONLY 5 MINS LATE AND I'M FRAZZLED. WE NEEDED TO CONSERVE FUEL DUE TO FLORIDA WX. RWY 4L HAD BEEN NOTAMED CLOSED FOR SEVERAL DAYS AND WAS CLOSED WHEN WE TAXIED IN 1 HR 15 MINS PRIOR. IT HAD JUST OPENED. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO INCORPORATE VERBALIZING ATC READBACKS TO THE CREW WITHIN THE LAST 2 MONTHS, SO THE CREW CAN CORRECT ME IF I MISUNDERSTAND. THINGS WERE TOO HECTIC DURING THE 90 DEG TURN AND RWY XING AND THIS TIME I DIDN'T DO IT. I'LL DO IT IN THE FUTURE. HAVE CTLRS TELL PLTS ONLY 1 OR 2 THINGS AT A TIME (IE, 'CROSS RWY 4R. HOLD SHORT RWY 4L'). WHEN I'M ON A RWY TAXIING, IT'S LIKE I HAVE THE RWY TO MYSELF. WE DON'T DO LAHSO SO WHEN I'M ON A RWY, I HURRY TO GET OFF AND CLR. I DON'T THINK TAXIING AROUND ON RWYS IS A GOOD IDEA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.