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Attributes | |
ACN | 486640 |
Time | |
Date | 200009 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mke.airport |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2200 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mke.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 890 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 486640 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : altimeter other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic flight crew : exited penetrated airspace |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Possible entry to class C airspace, contacted mke approach well before entry into class C airspace at kenosha, wi. Reported at 3500 ft and wished to transition airspace to west bend VFR, northbound. After repeated calls being not returned, I was given a squawk code and told to remain clear of class C airspace. I was on north heading believe to be on western fringes of airspace, dropped down from 3500 ft to 2000 ft, then 16000 ft steering further northwest asking controller if he wanted me further or different altitude. Then controller asked me to call supervisor upon landing at west bend, which I did. After that conversation, supervisor said was inadvertent and was not being written up, and I thanked him and on return trip I circumnaved the class C airspace. I believe both pilots and controllers can work together. If there was some question that I would have to have said was new altitude or heading especially after squawk code was given, at the same time if it is possible not to have to transition the class C area, I will circumnav the area. I am of the belief we can all make inadvertent mistakes and correct them the fastest way possible. For all of our safety at the time airspace and WX was clear unrestr.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF PIPER CHEROKEE PA28 ENTERED THE MKE CLASS C AIRSPACE WHILE ATTEMPTING TO CONTACT APCH CTL FOR A CLRNC THROUGH THAT AIRSPACE.
Narrative: POSSIBLE ENTRY TO CLASS C AIRSPACE, CONTACTED MKE APCH WELL BEFORE ENTRY INTO CLASS C AIRSPACE AT KENOSHA, WI. RPTED AT 3500 FT AND WISHED TO TRANSITION AIRSPACE TO WEST BEND VFR, NBOUND. AFTER REPEATED CALLS BEING NOT RETURNED, I WAS GIVEN A SQUAWK CODE AND TOLD TO REMAIN CLR OF CLASS C AIRSPACE. I WAS ON N HDG BELIEVE TO BE ON WESTERN FRINGES OF AIRSPACE, DROPPED DOWN FROM 3500 FT TO 2000 FT, THEN 16000 FT STEERING FURTHER NW ASKING CTLR IF HE WANTED ME FURTHER OR DIFFERENT ALT. THEN CTLR ASKED ME TO CALL SUPVR UPON LNDG AT WEST BEND, WHICH I DID. AFTER THAT CONVERSATION, SUPVR SAID WAS INADVERTENT AND WAS NOT BEING WRITTEN UP, AND I THANKED HIM AND ON RETURN TRIP I CIRCUMNAVED THE CLASS C AIRSPACE. I BELIEVE BOTH PLTS AND CTLRS CAN WORK TOGETHER. IF THERE WAS SOME QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SAID WAS NEW ALT OR HDG ESPECIALLY AFTER SQUAWK CODE WAS GIVEN, AT THE SAME TIME IF IT IS POSSIBLE NOT TO HAVE TO TRANSITION THE CLASS C AREA, I WILL CIRCUMNAV THE AREA. I AM OF THE BELIEF WE CAN ALL MAKE INADVERTENT MISTAKES AND CORRECT THEM THE FASTEST WAY POSSIBLE. FOR ALL OF OUR SAFETY AT THE TIME AIRSPACE AND WX WAS CLR UNRESTR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.