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Attributes | |
ACN | 487052 |
Time | |
Date | 200009 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvg.airport |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Rain Fog Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : cvg.tower tower : fat.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 36l other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude landing : roll |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 2000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 487052 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 13800 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 486450 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe incursion : landing without clearance inflight encounter : turbulence inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance Weather Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While on a flight from fwa to cvg, we had an 'aoa' anti-ice inoperative caution message. We held at shb to run the QRH and talk to maintenance. The problem was resolved. However, we had no stall protection or windshear guidance. We continued on to cvg. We were vectored for the approach to runway 36L ILS. We were cleared for the approach. While coming into cvg, the WX was 300 ft overcast and 2 mi visibility. As we were on the approach, we encountered light to moderate turbulence. There was garbled communications with approach. At 200 ft AGL, we were not sure if we were cleared to land. We could not get in to ATC. We landed. The entire time on the approach we were encountering the winds, airspeed and turbulence. Due to the fact that several system were not reliable, we were distraction. Therefore, we were not clear if we in fact had a landing clearance. After we landed, nothing was said by ATC other than to exit taxiway D7 and contact ramp tower. After we landed, we discussed the situation and we are still not sure if we had a landing clearance. We allowed ourselves to become distraction. We should have verified our landing clearance. It was a very slow time at cvg. We, or the controller, could have not been vigilant in our jobs. Supplemental information from acn 486450: did ask for turnoff at taxiway D7 and was given 'roger, dixie south on taxiway D7 to ramp.' wasn't sure if he said cleared to land first. Should have confirmed immediately clearance to land for our flight number on readback.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CL65 FLC LANDS WITHOUT CONFIRMING THEIR CLRNC FOR LNDG AT CVG.
Narrative: WHILE ON A FLT FROM FWA TO CVG, WE HAD AN 'AOA' ANTI-ICE INOP CAUTION MESSAGE. WE HELD AT SHB TO RUN THE QRH AND TALK TO MAINT. THE PROB WAS RESOLVED. HOWEVER, WE HAD NO STALL PROTECTION OR WINDSHEAR GUIDANCE. WE CONTINUED ON TO CVG. WE WERE VECTORED FOR THE APCH TO RWY 36L ILS. WE WERE CLRED FOR THE APCH. WHILE COMING INTO CVG, THE WX WAS 300 FT OVCST AND 2 MI VISIBILITY. AS WE WERE ON THE APCH, WE ENCOUNTERED LIGHT TO MODERATE TURB. THERE WAS GARBLED COMS WITH APCH. AT 200 FT AGL, WE WERE NOT SURE IF WE WERE CLRED TO LAND. WE COULD NOT GET IN TO ATC. WE LANDED. THE ENTIRE TIME ON THE APCH WE WERE ENCOUNTERING THE WINDS, AIRSPD AND TURB. DUE TO THE FACT THAT SEVERAL SYS WERE NOT RELIABLE, WE WERE DISTR. THEREFORE, WE WERE NOT CLR IF WE IN FACT HAD A LNDG CLRNC. AFTER WE LANDED, NOTHING WAS SAID BY ATC OTHER THAN TO EXIT TXWY D7 AND CONTACT RAMP TWR. AFTER WE LANDED, WE DISCUSSED THE SIT AND WE ARE STILL NOT SURE IF WE HAD A LNDG CLRNC. WE ALLOWED OURSELVES TO BECOME DISTR. WE SHOULD HAVE VERIFIED OUR LNDG CLRNC. IT WAS A VERY SLOW TIME AT CVG. WE, OR THE CTLR, COULD HAVE NOT BEEN VIGILANT IN OUR JOBS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 486450: DID ASK FOR TURNOFF AT TXWY D7 AND WAS GIVEN 'ROGER, DIXIE S ON TXWY D7 TO RAMP.' WASN'T SURE IF HE SAID CLRED TO LAND FIRST. SHOULD HAVE CONFIRMED IMMEDIATELY CLRNC TO LAND FOR OUR FLT NUMBER ON READBACK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.