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Attributes | |
ACN | 489014 |
Time | |
Date | 200010 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad.airport |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : iad.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : iad.tower |
Make Model Name | Jetstream 41 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 489014 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Facility Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Upon landing on runway 1L at iad, we exited the runway at taxiway yb, and as per company procedure, I (as first officer) was to contact ground after crossing the hold line nd the so was to contact the company for gate assignment. We both did as we were told to do and as I looked up from selecting the ground frequency I saw that the captain had continued his taxi to the adjoining taxiway Y. I did see off to our left a J41 taxiing south on taxiway Y. But he was at least 1000 ft away and posed no danger of collision. I felt it important to immediately contact ground rather than say something to the captain since there was nowhere to go or anything to do about the situation. I contacted ground who immediately, in a very agitated tone, told us that we had taxied onto an active taxiway and had 'cut off' another aircraft (the J41). He issued taxi instructions to us and told us to keep in mind what we had done. The scenario of keeping the aircraft moving after exiting the runway is not uncommon to us. In ord we have NOTAMS that tell us to keep going when exiting even if we can't make radio contact so as not to slow traffic flow exiting the runway (we had a jet landing right behind us and tower thanked us for the early exit). In lga you can't talk to ground half the time on exiting the runway and if you stopped at the hold line there would be no exits for landing aircraft (they expect you to continue). The fact that this was the end of an 11+ hour day coupled with an XA00 morning show at the airport made this crew a very tired one. The captain is so used to continuing to taxi after landing that it was 'normal' for him to continue to help increase the arrival rate at the airport. It has become normal for the first officer and so to go right to the radios to get clearance when we should be sure the stop is made. I make no excuses for not looking for the stop, I only am suggesting why I think I didn't.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: UPON LNDG, CREW EXITED THE RWY AT THE FIRST AVAILABLE EXIT. ONCE CLR, THEY CONTINUED TO TAXI ON THE PARALLEL WITHOUT FIRST CONTACTING GND.
Narrative: UPON LNDG ON RWY 1L AT IAD, WE EXITED THE RWY AT TXWY YB, AND AS PER COMPANY PROC, I (AS FO) WAS TO CONTACT GND AFTER XING THE HOLD LINE ND THE SO WAS TO CONTACT THE COMPANY FOR GATE ASSIGNMENT. WE BOTH DID AS WE WERE TOLD TO DO AND AS I LOOKED UP FROM SELECTING THE GND FREQ I SAW THAT THE CAPT HAD CONTINUED HIS TAXI TO THE ADJOINING TXWY Y. I DID SEE OFF TO OUR L A J41 TAXIING S ON TXWY Y. BUT HE WAS AT LEAST 1000 FT AWAY AND POSED NO DANGER OF COLLISION. I FELT IT IMPORTANT TO IMMEDIATELY CONTACT GND RATHER THAN SAY SOMETHING TO THE CAPT SINCE THERE WAS NOWHERE TO GO OR ANYTHING TO DO ABOUT THE SIT. I CONTACTED GND WHO IMMEDIATELY, IN A VERY AGITATED TONE, TOLD US THAT WE HAD TAXIED ONTO AN ACTIVE TXWY AND HAD 'CUT OFF' ANOTHER ACFT (THE J41). HE ISSUED TAXI INSTRUCTIONS TO US AND TOLD US TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT WE HAD DONE. THE SCENARIO OF KEEPING THE ACFT MOVING AFTER EXITING THE RWY IS NOT UNCOMMON TO US. IN ORD WE HAVE NOTAMS THAT TELL US TO KEEP GOING WHEN EXITING EVEN IF WE CAN'T MAKE RADIO CONTACT SO AS NOT TO SLOW TFC FLOW EXITING THE RWY (WE HAD A JET LNDG RIGHT BEHIND US AND TWR THANKED US FOR THE EARLY EXIT). IN LGA YOU CAN'T TALK TO GND HALF THE TIME ON EXITING THE RWY AND IF YOU STOPPED AT THE HOLD LINE THERE WOULD BE NO EXITS FOR LNDG ACFT (THEY EXPECT YOU TO CONTINUE). THE FACT THAT THIS WAS THE END OF AN 11+ HR DAY COUPLED WITH AN XA00 MORNING SHOW AT THE ARPT MADE THIS CREW A VERY TIRED ONE. THE CAPT IS SO USED TO CONTINUING TO TAXI AFTER LNDG THAT IT WAS 'NORMAL' FOR HIM TO CONTINUE TO HELP INCREASE THE ARR RATE AT THE ARPT. IT HAS BECOME NORMAL FOR THE FO AND SO TO GO RIGHT TO THE RADIOS TO GET CLRNC WHEN WE SHOULD BE SURE THE STOP IS MADE. I MAKE NO EXCUSES FOR NOT LOOKING FOR THE STOP, I ONLY AM SUGGESTING WHY I THINK I DIDN'T.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.