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Attributes | |
ACN | 490319 |
Time | |
Date | 200010 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mco.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mco.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 490312 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 490510 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : far non adherence : company policies non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During the arrival to mco we were vectored for the ILS runway 18R. Prior to the final intercept of the localizer, we were asked if we had runway 18L in sight, if we did we could have a visual approach to that runway. After seeing the airport, we told approach that we did have runway 18L in sight. We were cleared for the visual approach to runway 18L with a restr to cross orl VOR at or above 2500 ft. The restr was not a problem as approach left us high throughout the arrival. We switched to tower and landed without incident. When leaving the aircraft at the gate, we discussed whether or not we had clearance to land. All 3 of the crew believes we did, and ground control never said anything. However, none of us can verify we did. Because of the last min runway change and being high on approach, the workload was high.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC HAD SOME DOUBTS AS TO WHETHER LNDG WAS MADE WITH PROPER CLRNC.
Narrative: DURING THE ARR TO MCO WE WERE VECTORED FOR THE ILS RWY 18R. PRIOR TO THE FINAL INTERCEPT OF THE LOC, WE WERE ASKED IF WE HAD RWY 18L IN SIGHT, IF WE DID WE COULD HAVE A VISUAL APCH TO THAT RWY. AFTER SEEING THE ARPT, WE TOLD APCH THAT WE DID HAVE RWY 18L IN SIGHT. WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH TO RWY 18L WITH A RESTR TO CROSS ORL VOR AT OR ABOVE 2500 FT. THE RESTR WAS NOT A PROB AS APCH LEFT US HIGH THROUGHOUT THE ARR. WE SWITCHED TO TWR AND LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. WHEN LEAVING THE ACFT AT THE GATE, WE DISCUSSED WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD CLRNC TO LAND. ALL 3 OF THE CREW BELIEVES WE DID, AND GND CTL NEVER SAID ANYTHING. HOWEVER, NONE OF US CAN VERIFY WE DID. BECAUSE OF THE LAST MIN RWY CHANGE AND BEING HIGH ON APCH, THE WORKLOAD WAS HIGH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.