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Attributes | |
ACN | 490540 |
Time | |
Date | 200011 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rsw.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : rsw.tracon tower : lga.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 490540 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 490398 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
ATC gives clearance, 'after coral, fly heading 140 degrees and descend to xx ft.' we believe ATC said to descend to 4000 ft MSL while on the 140 degree heading. We believe we read back the directive '...after coral, 140 degree heading and down to 4000 ft MSL.' we put 4000 ft MSL in the autoplt/altitude alert window (autoplt is 'engaged' and 'altitude select' is 'armed' and working). As we leveled at 4000 ft MSL, ATC inquired about our altitude, to which we replied '4000 ft MSL.' ATC said we 'should have leveled at 5000 ft MSL, but that was ok as there was no traffic in our immediate vicinity, so go ahead and descend to 3000 ft MSL.' the crew inquired each other about the previous altitude clearance and we were not able to ascertain that ATC limited our descent to 5000 ft MSL. After deplaning the aircraft, the captain contacted the ATC controller to confer about the confusion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT OVERSHOOT NEAR RSW, FL.
Narrative: ATC GIVES CLRNC, 'AFTER CORAL, FLY HDG 140 DEGS AND DSND TO XX FT.' WE BELIEVE ATC SAID TO DSND TO 4000 FT MSL WHILE ON THE 140 DEG HDG. WE BELIEVE WE READ BACK THE DIRECTIVE '...AFTER CORAL, 140 DEG HDG AND DOWN TO 4000 FT MSL.' WE PUT 4000 FT MSL IN THE AUTOPLT/ALT ALERT WINDOW (AUTOPLT IS 'ENGAGED' AND 'ALT SELECT' IS 'ARMED' AND WORKING). AS WE LEVELED AT 4000 FT MSL, ATC INQUIRED ABOUT OUR ALT, TO WHICH WE REPLIED '4000 FT MSL.' ATC SAID WE 'SHOULD HAVE LEVELED AT 5000 FT MSL, BUT THAT WAS OK AS THERE WAS NO TFC IN OUR IMMEDIATE VICINITY, SO GO AHEAD AND DSND TO 3000 FT MSL.' THE CREW INQUIRED EACH OTHER ABOUT THE PREVIOUS ALT CLRNC AND WE WERE NOT ABLE TO ASCERTAIN THAT ATC LIMITED OUR DSCNT TO 5000 FT MSL. AFTER DEPLANING THE ACFT, THE CAPT CONTACTED THE ATC CTLR TO CONFER ABOUT THE CONFUSION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.