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Attributes | |
ACN | 490773 |
Time | |
Date | 200011 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 msl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 260 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 490773 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Approach descended us to 1500 ft vectoring us down the coast line. They turned us to 270 degrees and I believe they cleared us for visual approach to runway 27. We were about 3 1/2 - 4 mi out. I told them we were high. He said 'you can't make it from there.' we proceeded the visual and landed uneventfully. The approach was a maximum effort at the end of a long day, resulting in most of approach being unspooled engines. Fix would have been if approach would have given a lower final.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLRED FOR A VISUAL CLOSE IN, CALLED FOR A MAX EFFORT DSCNT AND APCH TO LNDG.
Narrative: APCH DSNDED US TO 1500 FT VECTORING US DOWN THE COAST LINE. THEY TURNED US TO 270 DEGS AND I BELIEVE THEY CLRED US FOR VISUAL APCH TO RWY 27. WE WERE ABOUT 3 1/2 - 4 MI OUT. I TOLD THEM WE WERE HIGH. HE SAID 'YOU CAN'T MAKE IT FROM THERE.' WE PROCEEDED THE VISUAL AND LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. THE APCH WAS A MAX EFFORT AT THE END OF A LONG DAY, RESULTING IN MOST OF APCH BEING UNSPOOLED ENGS. FIX WOULD HAVE BEEN IF APCH WOULD HAVE GIVEN A LOWER FINAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.