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Attributes | |
ACN | 491269 |
Time | |
Date | 200011 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sna.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | other |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sna.tower artcc : zla.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 19r other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : roll landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 491269 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 491270 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : fmc wind readout other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Go around on ground. Making final approach to sna in night visual conditions we encountered 20 KT tailwind at 2500 AGL with reported tower wind of 6 KT tail. Touchdown was long and hot, +40 KTS, I ordered a go around upon realizing we were in a dangerous situation. We executed the go around and returned for landing in the opposite direction, north. Upon reflection I would say I was remiss in not ordering a go around sooner. Not being in-the-slot is a very bad start to a landing. Supplemental information from acn 491270: we were cleared for the visual approach runway 19R at sna then subsequently cleared to land on runway 19R. We were on the VNAV profile for runway 19R, but after being cleared for the visual and turning towards the airport we were high for the approach. After slowing the aircraft down and configuring for landing a 30 KT tailwind all the way down to about 800 ft AGL caused us to be even higher and fast for the approach. We thought we could make the landing safely, but after touchdown on the runway it became very evident that to stop would require maximum braking and reverse thrust, so we initiated a go around and came back to make a normal landing on runway 1L.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757-200 CREW MADE GAR IN SNA.
Narrative: GAR ON GND. MAKING FINAL APCH TO SNA IN NIGHT VISUAL CONDITIONS WE ENCOUNTERED 20 KT TAILWIND AT 2500 AGL WITH RPTED TWR WIND OF 6 KT TAIL. TOUCHDOWN WAS LONG AND HOT, +40 KTS, I ORDERED A GAR UPON REALIZING WE WERE IN A DANGEROUS SIT. WE EXECUTED THE GAR AND RETURNED FOR LNDG IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, N. UPON REFLECTION I WOULD SAY I WAS REMISS IN NOT ORDERING A GAR SOONER. NOT BEING IN-THE-SLOT IS A VERY BAD START TO A LNDG. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 491270: WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH RWY 19R AT SNA THEN SUBSEQUENTLY CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 19R. WE WERE ON THE VNAV PROFILE FOR RWY 19R, BUT AFTER BEING CLRED FOR THE VISUAL AND TURNING TOWARDS THE ARPT WE WERE HIGH FOR THE APCH. AFTER SLOWING THE ACFT DOWN AND CONFIGURING FOR LNDG A 30 KT TAILWIND ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ABOUT 800 FT AGL CAUSED US TO BE EVEN HIGHER AND FAST FOR THE APCH. WE THOUGHT WE COULD MAKE THE LNDG SAFELY, BUT AFTER TOUCHDOWN ON THE RWY IT BECAME VERY EVIDENT THAT TO STOP WOULD REQUIRE MAX BRAKING AND REVERSE THRUST, SO WE INITIATED A GAR AND CAME BACK TO MAKE A NORMAL LNDG ON RWY 1L.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.