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Attributes | |
ACN | 494873 |
Time | |
Date | 200012 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : vrb.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : vrb.tower |
Operator | Other |
Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : vrb.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 9300 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 494873 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Arriving at vrb's controled airport from the south, tower instructed me to slow down and report a 2 mi left base to runway 4, as there were other aircraft in the pattern. When I was about to report the 2 mi base, tower advised that I was approaching an opposite direction aircraft. I asked whether I should turn out to the east to avoid the other aircraft since I didn't see it. She responded that I should pull up and turn east, which I did. After talking with the controller by phone, we realized 2 things: the other aircraft was on an exceptionally wide pattern, and that her idea of the location of a 2 mi base and mine were 2 different locations. To prevent a recurrence, tower should discourage exceptionally wide patterns, and I will report farther out on base if there is not too much verbal traffic. Often, at this busy airport, radio conversations are blocked by the large number of aircraft traffic. Another vital need at this airport is radar that tower personnel can use to separate traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT IN PA32 LNDG VRB HAS NMAC WITH A PA28 OPPOSITE DIRECTION IN THE PATTERN. BOTH ACFT UNDER TWR CTL.
Narrative: ARRIVING AT VRB'S CTLED ARPT FROM THE S, TWR INSTRUCTED ME TO SLOW DOWN AND RPT A 2 MI L BASE TO RWY 4, AS THERE WERE OTHER ACFT IN THE PATTERN. WHEN I WAS ABOUT TO RPT THE 2 MI BASE, TWR ADVISED THAT I WAS APCHING AN OPPOSITE DIRECTION ACFT. I ASKED WHETHER I SHOULD TURN OUT TO THE E TO AVOID THE OTHER ACFT SINCE I DIDN'T SEE IT. SHE RESPONDED THAT I SHOULD PULL UP AND TURN E, WHICH I DID. AFTER TALKING WITH THE CTLR BY PHONE, WE REALIZED 2 THINGS: THE OTHER ACFT WAS ON AN EXCEPTIONALLY WIDE PATTERN, AND THAT HER IDEA OF THE LOCATION OF A 2 MI BASE AND MINE WERE 2 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. TO PREVENT A RECURRENCE, TWR SHOULD DISCOURAGE EXCEPTIONALLY WIDE PATTERNS, AND I WILL RPT FARTHER OUT ON BASE IF THERE IS NOT TOO MUCH VERBAL TFC. OFTEN, AT THIS BUSY ARPT, RADIO CONVERSATIONS ARE BLOCKED BY THE LARGE NUMBER OF ACFT TFC. ANOTHER VITAL NEED AT THIS ARPT IS RADAR THAT TWR PERSONNEL CAN USE TO SEPARATE TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.