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Attributes | |
ACN | 497520 |
Time | |
Date | 200101 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : grr.airport |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Ice |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : grr.tracon tracon : bil.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 1650 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 497520 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 497242 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : company policies non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During climb out, we were assigned an altitude of 4000 ft. Additionally, we were given a turn after takeoff. I was hand flying the aircraft and was absorbed in the tasks of raising flaps, airspds and the turn. When I looked up, I was at an altitude of 3900 ft, climbing at 3500 FPM. I leveled off as best I could consistent with passenger safety. We reached an altitude of 4350 ft before stabilizing and descending back down to 4000 ft. The rest of the flight continued without incident. In retrospect, I could have used the autoplt, which would have solved the problem completely. As a new pilot in the aircraft, I was trying to learn the flight characteristics of the plane. However, I should have used the automation as I was instructed. I certainly will from now on. Supplemental information from acn 497242: I saw we were 500 ft from assigned altitude but climbing still at 4000+ FPM. I told the first officer to level off at our assigned altitude but he wasn't responding, so I repeated the command and started pushing the yoke forward. We ended up overshooting our altitude by approximately 400 ft. First officer said he was a lear copilot, so I maybe had too much confidence in him.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT OVERSHOOT WITH A LIGHT ACFT, NEW FO AND A CAPT THAT PUT TOO MUCH CONFIDENCE IN THE FO BACKGND.
Narrative: DURING CLBOUT, WE WERE ASSIGNED AN ALT OF 4000 FT. ADDITIONALLY, WE WERE GIVEN A TURN AFTER TKOF. I WAS HAND FLYING THE ACFT AND WAS ABSORBED IN THE TASKS OF RAISING FLAPS, AIRSPDS AND THE TURN. WHEN I LOOKED UP, I WAS AT AN ALT OF 3900 FT, CLBING AT 3500 FPM. I LEVELED OFF AS BEST I COULD CONSISTENT WITH PAX SAFETY. WE REACHED AN ALT OF 4350 FT BEFORE STABILIZING AND DSNDING BACK DOWN TO 4000 FT. THE REST OF THE FLT CONTINUED WITHOUT INCIDENT. IN RETROSPECT, I COULD HAVE USED THE AUTOPLT, WHICH WOULD HAVE SOLVED THE PROB COMPLETELY. AS A NEW PLT IN THE ACFT, I WAS TRYING TO LEARN THE FLT CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PLANE. HOWEVER, I SHOULD HAVE USED THE AUTOMATION AS I WAS INSTRUCTED. I CERTAINLY WILL FROM NOW ON. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 497242: I SAW WE WERE 500 FT FROM ASSIGNED ALT BUT CLBING STILL AT 4000+ FPM. I TOLD THE FO TO LEVEL OFF AT OUR ASSIGNED ALT BUT HE WASN'T RESPONDING, SO I REPEATED THE COMMAND AND STARTED PUSHING THE YOKE FORWARD. WE ENDED UP OVERSHOOTING OUR ALT BY APPROX 400 FT. FO SAID HE WAS A LEAR COPLT, SO I MAYBE HAD TOO MUCH CONFIDENCE IN HIM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.