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Attributes | |
ACN | 497990 |
Time | |
Date | 200101 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : san.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : san.tower tower : cys.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils other localizer |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 13150 flight time type : 9000 |
ASRS Report | 497990 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Vectors to visual for runway 27 at san, approach control cleared our aircraft for the visual approach to runway 27. Then there was conversation between approach and another aircraft regarding WX. Somewhere during this discussion, we landed on runway 27, but not sure we had received clearance from the tower. Bottom line: distraction from normal sequence lead to possible screw up. 2 wrongs don't make it right!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 CREW MAY HAVE LANDED AT SAN WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: VECTORS TO VISUAL FOR RWY 27 AT SAN, APCH CTL CLRED OUR ACFT FOR THE VISUAL APCH TO RWY 27. THEN THERE WAS CONVERSATION BTWN APCH AND ANOTHER ACFT REGARDING WX. SOMEWHERE DURING THIS DISCUSSION, WE LANDED ON RWY 27, BUT NOT SURE WE HAD RECEIVED CLRNC FROM THE TWR. BOTTOM LINE: DISTR FROM NORMAL SEQUENCE LEAD TO POSSIBLE SCREW UP. 2 WRONGS DON'T MAKE IT RIGHT!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.