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Attributes | |
ACN | 498621 |
Time | |
Date | 200101 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dtw.airport |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 16400 msl bound upper : 17000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc tower : mli.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 498621 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 14000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Descending to 17000 ft as cleared, thought we heard clearance to 11000 ft. Asked controller to 'verify flight abc' was cleared to 11000 ft. He came back with 'yes, flight abc cleared to 11000 ft.' I responded 'flight abc cleared to 11000 ft.' at approximately 17000 ft, got TA then RA. Descended to 16400 ft while reversing descent and climbing back to 17000 ft, clearing RA. It appears controller also had a flight 'back course' on frequency and had issued one of us an incorrect clearance. Called ATC on phone the next day and supervisor said controller had just messed up. We had correct clearance and acted correctly. Similar call signs continue to be a problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DSNDING B757 CREW RESPONDED TO A CLB RA FROM TCASII.
Narrative: DSNDING TO 17000 FT AS CLRED, THOUGHT WE HEARD CLRNC TO 11000 FT. ASKED CTLR TO 'VERIFY FLT ABC' WAS CLRED TO 11000 FT. HE CAME BACK WITH 'YES, FLT ABC CLRED TO 11000 FT.' I RESPONDED 'FLT ABC CLRED TO 11000 FT.' AT APPROX 17000 FT, GOT TA THEN RA. DSNDED TO 16400 FT WHILE REVERSING DSCNT AND CLBING BACK TO 17000 FT, CLRING RA. IT APPEARS CTLR ALSO HAD A FLT 'BC' ON FREQ AND HAD ISSUED ONE OF US AN INCORRECT CLRNC. CALLED ATC ON PHONE THE NEXT DAY AND SUPVR SAID CTLR HAD JUST MESSED UP. WE HAD CORRECT CLRNC AND ACTED CORRECTLY. SIMILAR CALL SIGNS CONTINUE TO BE A PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.