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First officer of a dehavilland DHC8-200, on IOE training flight, had in his possession an expired temporary airman's certificate.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 499251 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200101 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : phx.airport |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zab.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Dash 8-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 20 |
| ASRS Report | 499251 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated other Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
While on my first leg of an IOE training flight (the first flight of IOE) the captain examined my pilot license and realized that it had expired. The temporary license was issued aug/xa/00. I had incorrectly looked at the block after date of issuance which stated 'date designation expires apr/xa/01. That date was actually the designated examiner's expiration date. My license has been examined and checked on numerous occasions during training by both instructors and the FAA (federal observer oral and check ride) and no one caught the expired certificate. This is a 'new' temporary license the FAA is issuing, unlike the old handwritten temporary certificate. I recommend changing the computer program so that the actual expiration date of the certificate (issue date +120 days) is listed on the certificate, or move the location of the designated examiner's expiration to a different location on the license. In my opinion, the new temporary license can confuse pilots.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO OF A DEHAVILLAND DHC8-200, ON IOE TRAINING FLT, HAD IN HIS POSSESSION AN EXPIRED TEMPORARY AIRMAN'S CERTIFICATE.
Narrative: WHILE ON MY FIRST LEG OF AN IOE TRAINING FLT (THE FIRST FLT OF IOE) THE CAPT EXAMINED MY PLT LICENSE AND REALIZED THAT IT HAD EXPIRED. THE TEMPORARY LICENSE WAS ISSUED AUG/XA/00. I HAD INCORRECTLY LOOKED AT THE BLOCK AFTER DATE OF ISSUANCE WHICH STATED 'DATE DESIGNATION EXPIRES APR/XA/01. THAT DATE WAS ACTUALLY THE DESIGNATED EXAMINER'S EXPIRATION DATE. MY LICENSE HAS BEEN EXAMINED AND CHKED ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS DURING TRAINING BY BOTH INSTRUCTORS AND THE FAA (FEDERAL OBSERVER ORAL AND CHK RIDE) AND NO ONE CAUGHT THE EXPIRED CERTIFICATE. THIS IS A 'NEW' TEMPORARY LICENSE THE FAA IS ISSUING, UNLIKE THE OLD HANDWRITTEN TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE. I RECOMMEND CHANGING THE COMPUTER PROGRAM SO THAT THE ACTUAL EXPIRATION DATE OF THE CERTIFICATE (ISSUE DATE +120 DAYS) IS LISTED ON THE CERTIFICATE, OR MOVE THE LOCATION OF THE DESIGNATED EXAMINER'S EXPIRATION TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION ON THE LICENSE. IN MY OPINION, THE NEW TEMPORARY LICENSE CAN CONFUSE PLTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.