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Attributes | |
ACN | 500940 |
Time | |
Date | 200102 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : okk.vor |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 28900 msl bound upper : 28000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 1436 |
ASRS Report | 500940 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued alert none taken : insufficient time |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Given a clearance to cross 30 mi south of okk 280. First officer flying. I put altitude in MCP window and confirmed. However, first officer performed FMS programming versus my normal habit of working FMS as PNF. He loaded waypoint and restr, made a number of adjustments to descent page, and either failed to engage VNAV -- although he said he did -- or it tripped off due to a programming error. I did not verify the MCP settings as I knew him to be a fairly competent first officer. After he finished programming, I had been getting NOTAMS for ord and looked up and noticed descent did not commence, told him, and hurried down missing restr by approximately 900 ft. ATC seeing this cleared us to FL240. However, during hurry to make restr to 280, FMS went to altitude capture and as a result, our comments about 'what happened, etc' in missing atl restr caused us to not notice the second descent to FL240. ATC queried us and we realized level at FL280. Focus on first mistake led us to make a second. First officer continued to insist autoflt system caused problem. However, I broke down in my discipline in demanding the programming of FMC by PNF-discipline of not doing anything when climbing or descending. First officer was getting plates out on first error, and then not putting the error behind us. First officer felt autoflt was problem, but I feel our errors were poor cockpit discipline on my part, breaking with my patterns.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 CREW RETURNED TO LAND AFTER A CARGO FIRE WARNING LIGHT CAME ON DURING TKOF ROLL. THE CREW CONTINUED THEIR TKOF SINCE THE RWY WAS TOO ICY TO ABORT ON AT THEIR RELATIVE HIGH SPD.
Narrative: GIVEN A CLRNC TO CROSS 30 MI S OF OKK 280. FO FLYING. I PUT ALT IN MCP WINDOW AND CONFIRMED. HOWEVER, FO PERFORMED FMS PROGRAMMING VERSUS MY NORMAL HABIT OF WORKING FMS AS PNF. HE LOADED WAYPOINT AND RESTR, MADE A NUMBER OF ADJUSTMENTS TO DSCNT PAGE, AND EITHER FAILED TO ENGAGE VNAV -- ALTHOUGH HE SAID HE DID -- OR IT TRIPPED OFF DUE TO A PROGRAMMING ERROR. I DID NOT VERIFY THE MCP SETTINGS AS I KNEW HIM TO BE A FAIRLY COMPETENT FO. AFTER HE FINISHED PROGRAMMING, I HAD BEEN GETTING NOTAMS FOR ORD AND LOOKED UP AND NOTICED DSCNT DID NOT COMMENCE, TOLD HIM, AND HURRIED DOWN MISSING RESTR BY APPROX 900 FT. ATC SEEING THIS CLRED US TO FL240. HOWEVER, DURING HURRY TO MAKE RESTR TO 280, FMS WENT TO ALT CAPTURE AND AS A RESULT, OUR COMMENTS ABOUT 'WHAT HAPPENED, ETC' IN MISSING ATL RESTR CAUSED US TO NOT NOTICE THE SECOND DSCNT TO FL240. ATC QUERIED US AND WE REALIZED LEVEL AT FL280. FOCUS ON FIRST MISTAKE LED US TO MAKE A SECOND. FO CONTINUED TO INSIST AUTOFLT SYS CAUSED PROB. HOWEVER, I BROKE DOWN IN MY DISCIPLINE IN DEMANDING THE PROGRAMMING OF FMC BY PNF-DISCIPLINE OF NOT DOING ANYTHING WHEN CLBING OR DSNDING. FO WAS GETTING PLATES OUT ON FIRST ERROR, AND THEN NOT PUTTING THE ERROR BEHIND US. FO FELT AUTOFLT WAS PROB, BUT I FEEL OUR ERRORS WERE POOR COCKPIT DISCIPLINE ON MY PART, BREAKING WITH MY PATTERNS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.