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Attributes | |
ACN | 502030 |
Time | |
Date | 200102 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dpa.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3800 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 31 flight time total : 205 flight time type : 53 |
ASRS Report | 502030 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
The flight was an IFR flight in VMC from dpa to laf. I received my clearance from dpa clearance delivery. As the route was completely different from what I had filed, I asked the controller to repeat it. The controller repeated only the route of flight information of the clearance. I read back the route to the controller, but omitted the remainder of the clearance (altitude, departure frequency, squawk code, etc). The controller replied, '...readback correct.' before takeoff, the controller issued a new departure frequency and I confirmed the transponder code. I did not confirm the altitude I was supposed to climb and maintain, which I thought was 4000 ft MSL. I was cleared for takeoff and told to '...turn right heading 160 degrees.' after takeoff, I was told to contact chicago departure. My safety pilot contacted departure and reported, '...climbing through 1200 ft for 4000 ft.' the controller acknowledged 'radar contact' but said nothing of the altitude my safety pilot reported we were climbing to. We continued on heading 160 degrees and continued to climb. At about 3800 ft MSL, departure asked what altitude I was climbing to and 'who assigned 4000 ft?' I still do not know what altitude I was originally assigned. This could have been prevented by clearance delivery asking me to read the entire clearance back by chicago departure confirming my altitude assignment or, most importantly, by my asking any of the controllers to confirm my altitude clearance in spite of embarrassment.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 2 IN C172 AND 3 FAA CTLRS AND STILL A QUESTION OF ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: THE FLT WAS AN IFR FLT IN VMC FROM DPA TO LAF. I RECEIVED MY CLRNC FROM DPA CLRNC DELIVERY. AS THE RTE WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I HAD FILED, I ASKED THE CTLR TO REPEAT IT. THE CTLR REPEATED ONLY THE RTE OF FLT INFO OF THE CLRNC. I READ BACK THE RTE TO THE CTLR, BUT OMITTED THE REMAINDER OF THE CLRNC (ALT, DEP FREQ, SQUAWK CODE, ETC). THE CTLR REPLIED, '...READBACK CORRECT.' BEFORE TKOF, THE CTLR ISSUED A NEW DEP FREQ AND I CONFIRMED THE XPONDER CODE. I DID NOT CONFIRM THE ALT I WAS SUPPOSED TO CLB AND MAINTAIN, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS 4000 FT MSL. I WAS CLRED FOR TKOF AND TOLD TO '...TURN R HDG 160 DEGS.' AFTER TKOF, I WAS TOLD TO CONTACT CHICAGO DEP. MY SAFETY PLT CONTACTED DEP AND RPTED, '...CLBING THROUGH 1200 FT FOR 4000 FT.' THE CTLR ACKNOWLEDGED 'RADAR CONTACT' BUT SAID NOTHING OF THE ALT MY SAFETY PLT RPTED WE WERE CLBING TO. WE CONTINUED ON HDG 160 DEGS AND CONTINUED TO CLB. AT ABOUT 3800 FT MSL, DEP ASKED WHAT ALT I WAS CLBING TO AND 'WHO ASSIGNED 4000 FT?' I STILL DO NOT KNOW WHAT ALT I WAS ORIGINALLY ASSIGNED. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED BY CLRNC DELIVERY ASKING ME TO READ THE ENTIRE CLRNC BACK BY CHICAGO DEP CONFIRMING MY ALT ASSIGNMENT OR, MOST IMPORTANTLY, BY MY ASKING ANY OF THE CTLRS TO CONFIRM MY ALT CLRNC IN SPITE OF EMBARRASSMENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.