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Attributes | |
ACN | 502830 |
Time | |
Date | 200102 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 1700 |
ASRS Report | 502830 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 900 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During initial climb, I was looking out at traffic we were following and was late starting my leveloff at assigned altitude of 5000 ft. I initiated at about 4900 ft, but due to high rate of climb and the fact that we had already accelerated to 250 KTS, I ballooned to 5400 ft before I was able to stop ascent and descend to 5000 ft. The controller noted my altitude, reiterated the assigned altitude and said to descend to assigned altitude. At about that time, I got a TCASII RA to the east with indicated vertical separation 900 ft higher. I was already descending at this point and the TA was resolved after about 3-5 seconds. One of my concerns when looking outside to visually acquire the traffic we were following, was that it was a B727. After watching its takeoff roll, I thought to be fairly heavy. I didn't necessarily want to fly too closely or directly in its wake, as I ws concerned with turbulence associated with wingtip vortices. This concern was well founded as about 2 mins after the altitude excursion I did experience some wake turbulence. It was controllable with only about a 5-8 degree roll from wings level, but it had an accompanying jolt that is sometimes mildly disconcerting to passenger.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CARJ CREW DURING CLB, OVERSHOT ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: DURING INITIAL CLB, I WAS LOOKING OUT AT TFC WE WERE FOLLOWING AND WAS LATE STARTING MY LEVELOFF AT ASSIGNED ALT OF 5000 FT. I INITIATED AT ABOUT 4900 FT, BUT DUE TO HIGH RATE OF CLB AND THE FACT THAT WE HAD ALREADY ACCELERATED TO 250 KTS, I BALLOONED TO 5400 FT BEFORE I WAS ABLE TO STOP ASCENT AND DSND TO 5000 FT. THE CTLR NOTED MY ALT, REITERATED THE ASSIGNED ALT AND SAID TO DSND TO ASSIGNED ALT. AT ABOUT THAT TIME, I GOT A TCASII RA TO THE E WITH INDICATED VERT SEPARATION 900 FT HIGHER. I WAS ALREADY DSNDING AT THIS POINT AND THE TA WAS RESOLVED AFTER ABOUT 3-5 SECONDS. ONE OF MY CONCERNS WHEN LOOKING OUTSIDE TO VISUALLY ACQUIRE THE TFC WE WERE FOLLOWING, WAS THAT IT WAS A B727. AFTER WATCHING ITS TKOF ROLL, I THOUGHT TO BE FAIRLY HVY. I DIDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO FLY TOO CLOSELY OR DIRECTLY IN ITS WAKE, AS I WS CONCERNED WITH TURB ASSOCIATED WITH WINGTIP VORTICES. THIS CONCERN WAS WELL FOUNDED AS ABOUT 2 MINS AFTER THE ALT EXCURSION I DID EXPERIENCE SOME WAKE TURB. IT WAS CONTROLLABLE WITH ONLY ABOUT A 5-8 DEG ROLL FROM WINGS LEVEL, BUT IT HAD AN ACCOMPANYING JOLT THAT IS SOMETIMES MILDLY DISCONCERTING TO PAX.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.