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Captain passed hold short line when taxiing out to use full length of runway including the displaced portion. There was no known interference with other traffic.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 506547 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200104 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cyyz.airport |
| State Reference | ON |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 23 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 506547 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| ASRS Report | 506549 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Holding short of runway 23, stopped aircraft slightly past hold short line. Tower called for me to stop. No separation loss. Hold short line is approximately 200 ft from end of runway using the displaced threshold on parallel taxiway. Also, close to hold short line for entering runway at taxiway H. I told tower I would use the whole runway, including the displaced threshold, and began to taxi towards the end of the runway on the parallel taxiway H. As I crossed the hold short line, approximately 200 ft from the end of the runway where I expected it, the tower told us to hold up. Aircraft on short final, but no separation loss. Supplemental information from acn 506549: we were taxiing to runway 23 at yyz and I was heads down and the captain asked me to call tower for full use of runway rather than intersection takeoff. I called, they said yes we can. The captain continued and the tower said we just passed the hold short line. The captain stopped and no loss of separation occurred. We were then told to taxi into position and hold(normal takeoff and departure).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT PASSED HOLD SHORT LINE WHEN TAXIING OUT TO USE FULL LENGTH OF RWY INCLUDING THE DISPLACED PORTION. THERE WAS NO KNOWN INTERFERENCE WITH OTHER TFC.
Narrative: HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 23, STOPPED ACFT SLIGHTLY PAST HOLD SHORT LINE. TWR CALLED FOR ME TO STOP. NO SEPARATION LOSS. HOLD SHORT LINE IS APPROX 200 FT FROM END OF RWY USING THE DISPLACED THRESHOLD ON PARALLEL TXWY. ALSO, CLOSE TO HOLD SHORT LINE FOR ENTERING RWY AT TXWY H. I TOLD TWR I WOULD USE THE WHOLE RWY, INCLUDING THE DISPLACED THRESHOLD, AND BEGAN TO TAXI TOWARDS THE END OF THE RWY ON THE PARALLEL TXWY H. AS I CROSSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE, APPROX 200 FT FROM THE END OF THE RWY WHERE I EXPECTED IT, THE TWR TOLD US TO HOLD UP. ACFT ON SHORT FINAL, BUT NO SEPARATION LOSS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 506549: WE WERE TAXIING TO RWY 23 AT YYZ AND I WAS HEADS DOWN AND THE CAPT ASKED ME TO CALL TWR FOR FULL USE OF RWY RATHER THAN INTXN TKOF. I CALLED, THEY SAID YES WE CAN. THE CAPT CONTINUED AND THE TWR SAID WE JUST PASSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE. THE CAPT STOPPED AND NO LOSS OF SEPARATION OCCURRED. WE WERE THEN TOLD TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD(NORMAL TKOF AND DEP).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.