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Attributes | |
ACN | 507112 |
Time | |
Date | 200104 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5840 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 507112 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : wake turbulence other anomaly other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 30000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
On approach ILS runway 22R. OM GS approximately 5 NM behind MD80. Our aircraft banked several times violently at one point reaching 40 degrees bank to the right and unable to control with normal control inputs. I added power and turned left of the localizer to evade the wake turbulence. Approach control queried the reason for our turn and we had told him what had happened. The controller was concerned due to simultaneous approaches to runway 22L. We had the paralleling traffic in sight and at no time did we get close to any traffic to cause an unsafe situation. The MD80 may have been high on the glide slope and we were right on GS. He was showing lower on our TCAS (relative to our aircraft's altitude). These wake turbulence encounters occur very often going into ord regardless of aircraft type and proper separation (when leading aircraft is larger than the CL65). Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter advised that this was his first, real time wake turbulence incident. Although his previous aircraft was a large, air carrier turboprop, he felt that the carj was extra sensitive to wake turbulence, being a 'real handful.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CARJ INITIATES EVASIVE MANEUVER DUE TO WAKE TURBULENCE OF PRECEDING MD80 ON APCH TO ORD.
Narrative: ON APPROACH ILS RWY 22R. OM GS APPROXIMATELY 5 NM BEHIND MD80. OUR ACFT BANKED SEVERAL TIMES VIOLENTLY AT ONE POINT REACHING 40 DEGREES BANK TO THE RIGHT AND UNABLE TO CONTROL WITH NORMAL CONTROL INPUTS. I ADDED POWER AND TURNED LEFT OF THE LOCALIZER TO EVADE THE WAKE TURBULENCE. APPROACH CONTROL QUERIED THE REASON FOR OUR TURN AND WE HAD TOLD HIM WHAT HAD HAPPENED. THE CONTROLLER WAS CONCERNED DUE TO SIMULTANEOUS APPROACHES TO RWY 22L. WE HAD THE PARALLELING TFC IN SIGHT AND AT NO TIME DID WE GET CLOSE TO ANY TFC TO CAUSE AN UNSAFE SITUATION. THE MD80 MAY HAVE BEEN HIGH ON THE GLIDE SLOPE AND WE WERE RIGHT ON GS. HE WAS SHOWING LOWER ON OUR TCAS (RELATIVE TO OUR ACFT'S ALTITUDE). THESE WAKE TURBULENCE ENCOUNTERS OCCUR VERY OFTEN GOING INTO ORD REGARDLESS OF ACFT TYPE AND PROPER SEPARATION (WHEN LEADING ACFT IS LARGER THAN THE CL65). CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR ADVISED THAT THIS WAS HIS FIRST, REAL TIME WAKE TURBULENCE INCIDENT. ALTHOUGH HIS PREVIOUS ACFT WAS A LARGE, ACR TURBOPROP, HE FELT THAT THE CARJ WAS EXTRA SENSITIVE TO WAKE TURBULENCE, BEING A 'REAL HANDFUL.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.