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Attributes | |
ACN | 510510 |
Time | |
Date | 200105 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : cfb.vortac |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 16000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 13500 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 510510 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
While flying at 16000 ft MSL direct to cfb, we were asked by the controller our present position with respect to the cfb VOR. Our clearance was direct to cfb then direct syr. When we checked our position, we were 6 SM east of cfb. I asked the controller if he would like us to go direct to cfb at that time. He said it looked like we were headed direct to syr instead of cfb. We said we would turn direct to cfb and then direct to syr immediately. He told us to go direct to syr. This conversation with us implied he thought we were proceeding direct to syr, instead of direct to cfb then direct to syr, in violation of a clearance, which we were not.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DHC-8 CAPT RPTED A MISCOM WITH ZNY REGARDING ROUTING.
Narrative: WHILE FLYING AT 16000 FT MSL DIRECT TO CFB, WE WERE ASKED BY THE CTLR OUR PRESENT POS WITH RESPECT TO THE CFB VOR. OUR CLRNC WAS DIRECT TO CFB THEN DIRECT SYR. WHEN WE CHKED OUR POS, WE WERE 6 SM E OF CFB. I ASKED THE CTLR IF HE WOULD LIKE US TO GO DIRECT TO CFB AT THAT TIME. HE SAID IT LOOKED LIKE WE WERE HEADED DIRECT TO SYR INSTEAD OF CFB. WE SAID WE WOULD TURN DIRECT TO CFB AND THEN DIRECT TO SYR IMMEDIATELY. HE TOLD US TO GO DIRECT TO SYR. THIS CONVERSATION WITH US IMPLIED HE THOUGHT WE WERE PROCEEDING DIRECT TO SYR, INSTEAD OF DIRECT TO CFB THEN DIRECT TO SYR, IN VIOLATION OF A CLRNC, WHICH WE WERE NOT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.