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Attributes | |
ACN | 510538 |
Time | |
Date | 200105 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bur.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation II S2/Bravo |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 8 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 510538 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure Operational Error Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were approaching the approach to runway 8 from the wsw to follow a B737 coming in from the north. Upon calling the B737 in sight, we were told to turn to 070 degrees and intercept localizer and descend to 3500 ft until established, then cleared for visual approach behind the B737 with additional instructions to cross vny above 3000 ft. Also instructed at this time to slow to 170 KTS. At this time the B737 was 2 1/2 mi away and about 1000 ft below. As we turned the distance closed, so we leveled off and continued to slow further to keep the B737 in sight off the nose. The B737 rolled wings level and continued south across the final. Not knowing why he did this or what his intentions were, I elected to stay on the localizer course. The B737 continued south for about 2 mi then made a left 180 degree turn to reintercept final. Approach told us to continue as #1 and contact the tower. Tower cleared us to land and asked if approach had pointed the B737 out to us and we acknowledged that they had. 2 problems: 1) ATC vectored us too close, and 2) the B737 didn't explain his deviation. Not knowing his intentions, we elected to continue directly to the airport rather than follow an aircraft whose intentions were unclr.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C550 CREW CONTINUED TO ARPT WHEN TFC THEY WERE TO FOLLOW FLEW THROUGH THE LOC.
Narrative: WE WERE APCHING THE APCH TO RWY 8 FROM THE WSW TO FOLLOW A B737 COMING IN FROM THE N. UPON CALLING THE B737 IN SIGHT, WE WERE TOLD TO TURN TO 070 DEGS AND INTERCEPT LOC AND DSND TO 3500 FT UNTIL ESTABLISHED, THEN CLRED FOR VISUAL APCH BEHIND THE B737 WITH ADDITIONAL INSTRUCTIONS TO CROSS VNY ABOVE 3000 FT. ALSO INSTRUCTED AT THIS TIME TO SLOW TO 170 KTS. AT THIS TIME THE B737 WAS 2 1/2 MI AWAY AND ABOUT 1000 FT BELOW. AS WE TURNED THE DISTANCE CLOSED, SO WE LEVELED OFF AND CONTINUED TO SLOW FURTHER TO KEEP THE B737 IN SIGHT OFF THE NOSE. THE B737 ROLLED WINGS LEVEL AND CONTINUED S ACROSS THE FINAL. NOT KNOWING WHY HE DID THIS OR WHAT HIS INTENTIONS WERE, I ELECTED TO STAY ON THE LOC COURSE. THE B737 CONTINUED S FOR ABOUT 2 MI THEN MADE A L 180 DEG TURN TO REINTERCEPT FINAL. APCH TOLD US TO CONTINUE AS #1 AND CONTACT THE TWR. TWR CLRED US TO LAND AND ASKED IF APCH HAD POINTED THE B737 OUT TO US AND WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY HAD. 2 PROBS: 1) ATC VECTORED US TOO CLOSE, AND 2) THE B737 DIDN'T EXPLAIN HIS DEV. NOT KNOWING HIS INTENTIONS, WE ELECTED TO CONTINUE DIRECTLY TO THE ARPT RATHER THAN FOLLOW AN ACFT WHOSE INTENTIONS WERE UNCLR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.