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Attributes | |
ACN | 512626 |
Time | |
Date | 200105 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mev.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : takeoff roll |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern departure : vfr |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : takeoff roll ground : position and hold |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 590 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 512626 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 40 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The winds and traffic determined that I use runway 16 for takeoff. During my taxi from the transient parking area near the restaurant, I followed a C152 to the main taxiway. Before he exited the parking ramp (before he even passed me in the transient parking area) he did communicate that he was taxiing to runway 34. I continued my taxi to runway 16, making a mental note that he would be using the opposing runway. Considering the winds and traffic I thought that odd. I completed my run-up and before rolling to the hold short line, I communicated that I was rolling from the run-up area for takeoff on runway 16. After stopping at the hold short line to make another visual check for traffic, I communicated a second time that I was now rolling onto runway 16 for takeoff. As there was no other communications in reply, and I did not see any traffic, I proceeded onto the runway and began my takeoff roll. Here is where the story becomes more interesting. Approximately 2/3 of the way through my takeoff roll, I began to distinguish wing strobes (or sunlight glinting) at the far end of the runway. At this time, I was far closer to taking flight and clearing the runway than I was to safely stopping to clear the runway, so I dropped 15 degrees of flaps, lifted off as quickly as my airspeed would allow and cleared the runway to the right. As I was doing this, I communicated that I was expediting my takeoff and clearing runway 16 to the right. As I cleared the runway, the cessna in question cleared my left wing by approximately 40 ft and still with zero communication. Upon leaving the pattern and heading for reno, I listened intently to the radio traffic at minden. There was a fire bomber that was on the run-up ramp the same time as I was. The tanker crew was asking repeatedly that the cessna please extend its pattern and allow them to leave as they were responding to a fire near pyramid lake. After attempting to get a response 3 separate times, they finally just announced they were taking off on runway 16, and did so. After takeoff, they asked that the cessna please communicate and in response the pilot of the cessna was, in my opinion, unprofessional to the extreme. By communicating with other aircraft before takeoff, I know that my radio was transmitting correctly. After finding out that the pilot of the cessna was a local instructor, instructing a new student, I was shocked. I am extremely appalled that an instructor acted in such a way as that while flying an aircraft. Especially while teaching a student pilot the fundamentals of flight and safety. The thought of flying in the same airspace as one of his students, much less him, scares the hell out of me. The pilot in question has a reputation on the field for flying as though 'he owns the airport.' this is not the first time someone has experienced a safety issue with the pilot of the cessna. This incident could have been avoided had the cessna pilot communicated his intentions. It could have also been avoided had he chosen to use the preferred runway at the time. There also seems to be the additional complication of a poor attitude in regard to safety and courtesy.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN A STINSON 108 ON INITIAL CLB AFTER TKOF AND A C152 ALSO ON INITIAL CLBOUT FROM THE OPPOSITE END OF THE RWY. THE RPTR MOVED OVER TO THE R SIDE OF THE RWY TO LET THE OTHER ACFT BY.
Narrative: THE WINDS AND TFC DETERMINED THAT I USE RWY 16 FOR TKOF. DURING MY TAXI FROM THE TRANSIENT PARKING AREA NEAR THE RESTAURANT, I FOLLOWED A C152 TO THE MAIN TXWY. BEFORE HE EXITED THE PARKING RAMP (BEFORE HE EVEN PASSED ME IN THE TRANSIENT PARKING AREA) HE DID COMMUNICATE THAT HE WAS TAXIING TO RWY 34. I CONTINUED MY TAXI TO RWY 16, MAKING A MENTAL NOTE THAT HE WOULD BE USING THE OPPOSING RWY. CONSIDERING THE WINDS AND TFC I THOUGHT THAT ODD. I COMPLETED MY RUN-UP AND BEFORE ROLLING TO THE HOLD SHORT LINE, I COMMUNICATED THAT I WAS ROLLING FROM THE RUN-UP AREA FOR TKOF ON RWY 16. AFTER STOPPING AT THE HOLD SHORT LINE TO MAKE ANOTHER VISUAL CHK FOR TFC, I COMMUNICATED A SECOND TIME THAT I WAS NOW ROLLING ONTO RWY 16 FOR TKOF. AS THERE WAS NO OTHER COMS IN REPLY, AND I DID NOT SEE ANY TFC, I PROCEEDED ONTO THE RWY AND BEGAN MY TKOF ROLL. HERE IS WHERE THE STORY BECOMES MORE INTERESTING. APPROX 2/3 OF THE WAY THROUGH MY TKOF ROLL, I BEGAN TO DISTINGUISH WING STROBES (OR SUNLIGHT GLINTING) AT THE FAR END OF THE RWY. AT THIS TIME, I WAS FAR CLOSER TO TAKING FLT AND CLRING THE RWY THAN I WAS TO SAFELY STOPPING TO CLR THE RWY, SO I DROPPED 15 DEGS OF FLAPS, LIFTED OFF AS QUICKLY AS MY AIRSPD WOULD ALLOW AND CLRED THE RWY TO THE R. AS I WAS DOING THIS, I COMMUNICATED THAT I WAS EXPEDITING MY TKOF AND CLRING RWY 16 TO THE R. AS I CLRED THE RWY, THE CESSNA IN QUESTION CLRED MY L WING BY APPROX 40 FT AND STILL WITH ZERO COM. UPON LEAVING THE PATTERN AND HDG FOR RENO, I LISTENED INTENTLY TO THE RADIO TFC AT MINDEN. THERE WAS A FIRE BOMBER THAT WAS ON THE RUN-UP RAMP THE SAME TIME AS I WAS. THE TANKER CREW WAS ASKING REPEATEDLY THAT THE CESSNA PLEASE EXTEND ITS PATTERN AND ALLOW THEM TO LEAVE AS THEY WERE RESPONDING TO A FIRE NEAR PYRAMID LAKE. AFTER ATTEMPTING TO GET A RESPONSE 3 SEPARATE TIMES, THEY FINALLY JUST ANNOUNCED THEY WERE TAKING OFF ON RWY 16, AND DID SO. AFTER TKOF, THEY ASKED THAT THE CESSNA PLEASE COMMUNICATE AND IN RESPONSE THE PLT OF THE CESSNA WAS, IN MY OPINION, UNPROFESSIONAL TO THE EXTREME. BY COMMUNICATING WITH OTHER ACFT BEFORE TKOF, I KNOW THAT MY RADIO WAS XMITTING CORRECTLY. AFTER FINDING OUT THAT THE PLT OF THE CESSNA WAS A LCL INSTRUCTOR, INSTRUCTING A NEW STUDENT, I WAS SHOCKED. I AM EXTREMELY APPALLED THAT AN INSTRUCTOR ACTED IN SUCH A WAY AS THAT WHILE FLYING AN ACFT. ESPECIALLY WHILE TEACHING A STUDENT PLT THE FUNDAMENTALS OF FLT AND SAFETY. THE THOUGHT OF FLYING IN THE SAME AIRSPACE AS ONE OF HIS STUDENTS, MUCH LESS HIM, SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME. THE PLT IN QUESTION HAS A REPUTATION ON THE FIELD FOR FLYING AS THOUGH 'HE OWNS THE ARPT.' THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME SOMEONE HAS EXPERIENCED A SAFETY ISSUE WITH THE PLT OF THE CESSNA. THIS INCIDENT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED HAD THE CESSNA PLT COMMUNICATED HIS INTENTIONS. IT COULD HAVE ALSO BEEN AVOIDED HAD HE CHOSEN TO USE THE PREFERRED RWY AT THE TIME. THERE ALSO SEEMS TO BE THE ADDITIONAL COMPLICATION OF A POOR ATTITUDE IN REGARD TO SAFETY AND COURTESY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.