PA-28 instructor and student did not turn to the ARTCC radar controller's heading in order to avoid ...

Attributes
ACN	513730
Time
Date	200106
Day	Wed
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mkt.airport
State Reference	MN
Altitude	msl single value : 1800
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior
Flight Phase	climbout : initial
Route In Use	departure : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : instructor oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 1045 flight time type : 400
ASRS Report	513730
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation other

Narrative:

My student and I were departing the mankato airport in VMC, but on an IFR flight plan. At the time we were departing, there were numerous other VFR traffic in the pattern practicing lndgs. ZMP gave us a right turn for departure. We were concerned this would be a conflict with the traffic in the pattern at mankato, so we turned left to follow the traffic. During this turn we were in VMC the entire time and watching for other traffic. Things that could have been done different to improve the safety of this flight would have been: departed VFR until we were clear of traffic, and then opened our IFR flight plan after we were sure there would be no conflict with the traffic in the pattern. Advise ZMP of our intentions well before we made our turn, also advise center as to the ceilings and visibility, and tell them that there was considerable VFR traffic in the pattern at the time.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PA-28 INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT DID NOT TURN TO THE ARTCC RADAR CTLR'S HDG IN ORDER TO AVOID OTHER ACFT IN THE ARPT TFC PATTERN AT MKT IN ZMP CLASS E AIRSPACE.

Narrative: MY STUDENT AND I WERE DEPARTING THE MANKATO ARPT IN VMC, BUT ON AN IFR FLT PLAN. AT THE TIME WE WERE DEPARTING, THERE WERE NUMEROUS OTHER VFR TFC IN THE PATTERN PRACTICING LNDGS. ZMP GAVE US A R TURN FOR DEP. WE WERE CONCERNED THIS WOULD BE A CONFLICT WITH THE TFC IN THE PATTERN AT MANKATO, SO WE TURNED L TO FOLLOW THE TFC. DURING THIS TURN WE WERE IN VMC THE ENTIRE TIME AND WATCHING FOR OTHER TFC. THINGS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE DIFFERENT TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF THIS FLT WOULD HAVE BEEN: DEPARTED VFR UNTIL WE WERE CLR OF TFC, AND THEN OPENED OUR IFR FLT PLAN AFTER WE WERE SURE THERE WOULD BE NO CONFLICT WITH THE TFC IN THE PATTERN. ADVISE ZMP OF OUR INTENTIONS WELL BEFORE WE MADE OUR TURN, ALSO ADVISE CTR AS TO THE CEILINGS AND VISIBILITY, AND TELL THEM THAT THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE VFR TFC IN THE PATTERN AT THE TIME.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

PA-28 instructor and student did not turn to the ARTCC radar controller's heading in order to avoid other aircraft in the airport traffic pattern at mkt in ZMP class east airspace.