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A BE1900D captain reported that ZMP gave ambiguous instructions when pointing out traffic near ste, causing them to take evasive action.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 518180 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200106 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| State Reference | WI |
| Altitude | msl single value : 9000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp.artcc |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | controller non radar : 10 controller radar : 10 flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 1100 |
| ASRS Report | 518180 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
On flight from mke to cwa, we were talking with ZMP. We were given a descent at discretion from 14000 ft to 4000 ft. ATC pointed out VFR traffic at 8700 ft, heading eastbound. I stopped descending at 9000 ft to stay above traffic. ATC never gave us a vector. So, finally when traffic was about 1 mi away, we requested a turn from ATC. We finally saw traffic off the right wing and continued flight to destination.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A BE1900D CAPT RPTED THAT ZMP GAVE AMBIGUOUS INSTRUCTIONS WHEN POINTING OUT TFC NEAR STE, CAUSING THEM TO TAKE EVASIVE ACTION.
Narrative: ON FLT FROM MKE TO CWA, WE WERE TALKING WITH ZMP. WE WERE GIVEN A DSCNT AT DISCRETION FROM 14000 FT TO 4000 FT. ATC POINTED OUT VFR TFC AT 8700 FT, HDG EBOUND. I STOPPED DSNDING AT 9000 FT TO STAY ABOVE TFC. ATC NEVER GAVE US A VECTOR. SO, FINALLY WHEN TFC WAS ABOUT 1 MI AWAY, WE REQUESTED A TURN FROM ATC. WE FINALLY SAW TFC OFF THE R WING AND CONTINUED FLT TO DEST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.