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Attributes | |
ACN | 518980 |
Time | |
Date | 200107 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ith.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | ground : parked ground : taxi ground : pushback ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 518980 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
Resolutory Action | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
My flight crew reported at XA15 for an XB00 departure. Operations told me WX would not be available until XA30, so we proceeded to board with 1 copy of release. Preflight and before start were normal. We asked operations via radio for WX and release at XA45 and they said the gate agent would bring it out. Gate agent brought out load manifest and the first officer prepared weight and balance form and gave it to flight attendant along with a copy of the release (signed by me in anticipation of receiving the WX). Door was shut, engines started and I spun the aircraft around for taxi. At this point we realized the WX had not been received nor was the second copy of release. We spun back around and parked. Engine #1 was shut down, door was reopened and paperwork brought on board. I reviewed the WX and signed release copy #2 (kept on plane for our use). We restarted #1 engine and taxied for departure. Flight was uneventful. The main lesson for me was to not sign release until all WX is received and reviewed. Anticipating that it will be received should not be acceptable. On-time departures are important, but only if the WX is known and good to go.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DHC-8 FLT CREW DEPARTS GATE WITHOUT THE WX AND THEN RETURNS FOR IT.
Narrative: MY FLT CREW RPTED AT XA15 FOR AN XB00 DEP. OPS TOLD ME WX WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE UNTIL XA30, SO WE PROCEEDED TO BOARD WITH 1 COPY OF RELEASE. PREFLT AND BEFORE START WERE NORMAL. WE ASKED OPS VIA RADIO FOR WX AND RELEASE AT XA45 AND THEY SAID THE GATE AGENT WOULD BRING IT OUT. GATE AGENT BROUGHT OUT LOAD MANIFEST AND THE FO PREPARED WT AND BAL FORM AND GAVE IT TO FLT ATTENDANT ALONG WITH A COPY OF THE RELEASE (SIGNED BY ME IN ANTICIPATION OF RECEIVING THE WX). DOOR WAS SHUT, ENGS STARTED AND I SPUN THE ACFT AROUND FOR TAXI. AT THIS POINT WE REALIZED THE WX HAD NOT BEEN RECEIVED NOR WAS THE SECOND COPY OF RELEASE. WE SPUN BACK AROUND AND PARKED. ENG #1 WAS SHUT DOWN, DOOR WAS REOPENED AND PAPERWORK BROUGHT ON BOARD. I REVIEWED THE WX AND SIGNED RELEASE COPY #2 (KEPT ON PLANE FOR OUR USE). WE RESTARTED #1 ENG AND TAXIED FOR DEP. FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL. THE MAIN LESSON FOR ME WAS TO NOT SIGN RELEASE UNTIL ALL WX IS RECEIVED AND REVIEWED. ANTICIPATING THAT IT WILL BE RECEIVED SHOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE. ON-TIME DEPS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT ONLY IF THE WX IS KNOWN AND GOOD TO GO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.