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Attributes | |
ACN | 519782 |
Time | |
Date | 200107 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad.airport |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mdsd.tower |
Operator | common carrier : charter |
Make Model Name | Turbo Commander 690C |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : iad.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Jetstream 32 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 119 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 519782 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We landed on runway 12 and were switched to the local controller to ground on 121.9, and instructed to use taxiway Z. Coming up taxiway Z, we observed a J41 turn left off of taxiway Y onto either taxiway a or taxiway B (airport was also landing runway 19R) without hearing any communication between that aircraft and ground. Dulles frequently splits the airport with east side ground on 121.9 and west side ground on 132.45. Sometimes they simulcast, other times not. We should have realized what was going on and switched frequencys so we could hear what was being said to the aircraft turing off runway 19R, but went into 'sheep' mode and was doing only what we were told. As we got closer to txwys a and B, we observed a J32 sbound on taxiway Y, having exited runway 19R after landing. As he approached taxiway a (or taxiway B -- they're very close together and I do not recall which one he was turning onto) he slowed to make the turn and we foolishly assumed that he had been instructed to pass behind us (the logical sequence). Apparently he had not been given any instruction other than 'taxi to the gate.' we began slowing in anticipation of a mixup when he started into his turn rather than waiting to let us pass before beginning said turn. At this point we turned on our taxi lights and several seconds later we both decided at the same time that the other was not going to stop and locked them up. I believe that was probably the first time they saw us, though they may have been having the same thought process we were. We waived them on, nothing was said on our frequency about it. After putting the airplane away, I called the tower and the supervisor who had just come on didn't know anything about it. The whole thing could have been avoided by either our switching frequencys, or, more correctly, by dulles leaving the airport split all the time. They can simulcast if they want to during the non-busy periods, but everyone in close proximity to other airplanes, needs to be able to hear those airplanes and hear what is being said to those airplanes. The other issue here is that I don't think anybody in the tower who was actively moving airplanes at the time knew there was a conflict either.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMANDER 690 PLT SLOWED TAXIING FOR A JETSTREAM 32 COMING OFF THE RWY DIRECTLY AHEAD AND ONTO HIS TXWY. WHEN IT BECAME APPARENT THAT THE JS32 WAS NOT GOING TO STOP, THE AC690 ACFT ABRUPTLY STOPPED. THE TWR CTLR HAD NOT BEFORE, OR AFTER, MADE ANY ADVISORY OR GAVE INSTRUCTIONS TO EITHER ACFT.
Narrative: WE LANDED ON RWY 12 AND WERE SWITCHED TO THE LCL CTLR TO GND ON 121.9, AND INSTRUCTED TO USE TXWY Z. COMING UP TXWY Z, WE OBSERVED A J41 TURN L OFF OF TXWY Y ONTO EITHER TXWY A OR TXWY B (ARPT WAS ALSO LNDG RWY 19R) WITHOUT HEARING ANY COM BTWN THAT ACFT AND GND. DULLES FREQUENTLY SPLITS THE ARPT WITH E SIDE GND ON 121.9 AND W SIDE GND ON 132.45. SOMETIMES THEY SIMULCAST, OTHER TIMES NOT. WE SHOULD HAVE REALIZED WHAT WAS GOING ON AND SWITCHED FREQS SO WE COULD HEAR WHAT WAS BEING SAID TO THE ACFT TURING OFF RWY 19R, BUT WENT INTO 'SHEEP' MODE AND WAS DOING ONLY WHAT WE WERE TOLD. AS WE GOT CLOSER TO TXWYS A AND B, WE OBSERVED A J32 SBOUND ON TXWY Y, HAVING EXITED RWY 19R AFTER LNDG. AS HE APCHED TXWY A (OR TXWY B -- THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TOGETHER AND I DO NOT RECALL WHICH ONE HE WAS TURNING ONTO) HE SLOWED TO MAKE THE TURN AND WE FOOLISHLY ASSUMED THAT HE HAD BEEN INSTRUCTED TO PASS BEHIND US (THE LOGICAL SEQUENCE). APPARENTLY HE HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN ANY INSTRUCTION OTHER THAN 'TAXI TO THE GATE.' WE BEGAN SLOWING IN ANTICIPATION OF A MIXUP WHEN HE STARTED INTO HIS TURN RATHER THAN WAITING TO LET US PASS BEFORE BEGINNING SAID TURN. AT THIS POINT WE TURNED ON OUR TAXI LIGHTS AND SEVERAL SECONDS LATER WE BOTH DECIDED AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE OTHER WAS NOT GOING TO STOP AND LOCKED THEM UP. I BELIEVE THAT WAS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME THEY SAW US, THOUGH THEY MAY HAVE BEEN HAVING THE SAME THOUGHT PROCESS WE WERE. WE WAIVED THEM ON, NOTHING WAS SAID ON OUR FREQ ABOUT IT. AFTER PUTTING THE AIRPLANE AWAY, I CALLED THE TWR AND THE SUPVR WHO HAD JUST COME ON DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THE WHOLE THING COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED BY EITHER OUR SWITCHING FREQS, OR, MORE CORRECTLY, BY DULLES LEAVING THE ARPT SPLIT ALL THE TIME. THEY CAN SIMULCAST IF THEY WANT TO DURING THE NON-BUSY PERIODS, BUT EVERYONE IN CLOSE PROX TO OTHER AIRPLANES, NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THOSE AIRPLANES AND HEAR WHAT IS BEING SAID TO THOSE AIRPLANES. THE OTHER ISSUE HERE IS THAT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THE TWR WHO WAS ACTIVELY MOVING AIRPLANES AT THE TIME KNEW THERE WAS A CONFLICT EITHER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.