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Attributes | |
ACN | 520468 |
Time | |
Date | 200108 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fft.airport |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 450 |
ASRS Report | 520468 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : clearance delivery |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA ATC Facility ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
Using remote communication outlet received IFR clearance. Told controller we needed 10 mins to get ready would be update our flight plan so as not to time out. Frequency was congested. Controller on several frequencys on takeoff controller asked had we not received a hold for IFR release. Told him no. I think part of every clearance at remote site. First words should be hold for release, then clearance would avoid confusion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMT CREW DID NOT GET A 'HOLD FOR IFR RELEASE' WITH THEIR ATC IFR CLRNC.
Narrative: USING REMOTE COM OUTLET RECEIVED IFR CLRNC. TOLD CTLR WE NEEDED 10 MINS TO GET READY WOULD BE UPDATE OUR FLT PLAN SO AS NOT TO TIME OUT. FREQ WAS CONGESTED. CTLR ON SEVERAL FREQS ON TKOF CTLR ASKED HAD WE NOT RECEIVED A HOLD FOR IFR RELEASE. TOLD HIM NO. I THINK PART OF EVERY CLRNC AT REMOTE SITE. FIRST WORDS SHOULD BE HOLD FOR RELEASE, THEN CLRNC WOULD AVOID CONFUSION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.