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Attributes | |
ACN | 520814 |
Time | |
Date | 200108 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cle.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : cle.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : position and hold ground : taxi ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : cle.tower |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 380 |
ASRS Report | 520814 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 520713 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance flight crew : executed go around flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
We received taxi clearance at cle to 'runway 24R, orange route, hold short runway 24L.' we complied with this clearance and switched to tower while holding short of runway 24L on runway 28. We were subsequently cleared to 'cross runway 24L, position and hold runway 24R.' the captain carefully added power to avoid jet blast to the ATR behind, and proceeded to cross runway 24L. As we crossed the hold short line, we heard 'air carrier Y' and the transmission cut out, as if the tower controller unkeyed the microphone. As we crossed the centerline and observed the aircraft on short final for runway 24L to be closer than the previously stated 2 miles, we heard 'hold short runway 24R.' I saw there was not enough room for an MD88 to hold short between runways 24R and 24L, and before I could respond, the controller again said 'hold short runway 24R.' I acknowledged, 'roger, hold short runway 24R,' with uncertainty in my voice over the lack of space to do so. Immediately, the local controller instructed the aircraft on final for runway 24L to go around, after which he proceeded to yell over the frequency, 'I told you 3 times to hold short runway 24L!' I responded we did not hear that, and asked if any other aircraft heard that. The only response was the local controller in a very juvenile manner, stating that it was all recorded. (No kidding, I'm a professional pilot) if I was captain, I would have asked him to mark the tape and called on arrival. The safety concern was that while berating us over the radio, the local controller had 2 aircraft on final for runway 24R and left, one on a go around, and us in position on runway 24R. Our subsequent takeoff clearance was blocked by the go around aircraft asking for a change to departure. I fully believe the controller meant to say hold short runway 24L, but did so too late and accidentally, unkeyed the microphone. He then stated the wrong runway twice , committing an operational error he tried to blame us for. The controller never said over the frequency to hold short runway 24L after we were cleared to cross. Supplemental information from acn 520713: we had heard several xmissions during that brief time, but did not hear or respond to any instructions for us. The tower controller said he called 3 times to tell us to hold short, with no response. We heard no such calls. We did, however, hear communications with other aircraft just fine.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLE LCL CHALLENGES MD88 FLC FOR CROSSING RWY WITH LNDG TFC ON 2 MILE FINAL.
Narrative: WE RECEIVED TAXI CLRNC AT CLE TO 'RWY 24R, ORANGE RTE, HOLD SHORT RWY 24L.' WE COMPLIED WITH THIS CLRNC AND SWITCHED TO TWR WHILE HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 24L ON RWY 28. WE WERE SUBSEQUENTLY CLRED TO 'CROSS RWY 24L, POS AND HOLD RWY 24R.' THE CAPT CAREFULLY ADDED PWR TO AVOID JET BLAST TO THE ATR BEHIND, AND PROCEEDED TO CROSS RWY 24L. AS WE CROSSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE, WE HEARD 'ACR Y' AND THE XMISSION CUT OUT, AS IF THE TWR CTLR UNKEYED THE MIKE. AS WE CROSSED THE CTRLINE AND OBSERVED THE ACFT ON SHORT FINAL FOR RWY 24L TO BE CLOSER THAN THE PREVIOUSLY STATED 2 MILES, WE HEARD 'HOLD SHORT RWY 24R.' I SAW THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR AN MD88 TO HOLD SHORT BETWEEN RWYS 24R AND 24L, AND BEFORE I COULD RESPOND, THE CTLR AGAIN SAID 'HOLD SHORT RWY 24R.' I ACKNOWLEDGED, 'ROGER, HOLD SHORT RWY 24R,' WITH UNCERTAINTY IN MY VOICE OVER THE LACK OF SPACE TO DO SO. IMMEDIATELY, THE LOCAL CTLR INSTRUCTED THE ACFT ON FINAL FOR RWY 24L TO GAR, AFTER WHICH HE PROCEEDED TO YELL OVER THE FREQUENCY, 'I TOLD YOU 3 TIMES TO HOLD SHORT RWY 24L!' I RESPONDED WE DID NOT HEAR THAT, AND ASKED IF ANY OTHER ACFT HEARD THAT. THE ONLY RESPONSE WAS THE LCL CTLR IN A VERY JUVENILE MANNER, STATING THAT IT WAS ALL RECORDED. (NO KIDDING, I'M A PROFESSIONAL PLT) IF I WAS CAPT, I WOULD HAVE ASKED HIM TO MARK THE TAPE AND CALLED ON ARRIVAL. THE SAFETY CONCERN WAS THAT WHILE BERATING US OVER THE RADIO, THE LCL CTLR HAD 2 ACFT ON FINAL FOR RWY 24R AND L, ONE ON A GAR, AND US IN POS ON RWY 24R. OUR SUBSEQUENT TAKEOFF CLRNC WAS BLOCKED BY THE GAR ACFT ASKING FOR A CHANGE TO DEP. I FULLY BELIEVE THE CTLR MEANT TO SAY HOLD SHORT RWY 24L, BUT DID SO TOO LATE AND ACCIDENTALLY, UNKEYED THE MIKE. HE THEN STATED THE WRONG RWY TWICE , COMMITTING AN OPERROR HE TRIED TO BLAME US FOR. THE CTLR NEVER SAID OVER THE FREQ TO HOLD SHORT RWY 24L AFTER WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 520713: WE HAD HEARD SEVERAL XMISSIONS DURING THAT BRIEF TIME, BUT DID NOT HEAR OR RESPOND TO ANY INSTRUCTIONS FOR US. THE TWR CTLR SAID HE CALLED 3 TIMES TO TELL US TO HOLD SHORT, WITH NO RESPONSE. WE HEARD NO SUCH CALLS. WE DID, HOWEVER, HEAR COMS WITH OTHER ACFT JUST FINE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.