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Attributes | |
ACN | 523864 |
Time | |
Date | 200109 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sez.airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 15350 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 523864 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Narrative:
I landed behind a cessna 182. There was an aircraft (piper) waiting to take off on runway 3 after I cleared the runway. There was a cessna 172 about 3 miles out for runway 3. The piper announced he was taking the runway to takeoff after me, and one of the airport service personnel made a radio transmission commanding the piper to hold short due to traffic on final. I know sedona wants to get an ATC control tower, but sending ramp fueling personnel out with trucks and radios is not the way to do it. Even if this had been a close situation, which it was not, it sets a bad habit pattern for times which might be critical. Bottom line: ATC must only be done by trained, qualified controllers! Not fuelers. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated some employees at sez are issuing control instructions to pilots on the unicom frequency. He has heard airport employees on busy week-ends instruct pilots to land long because of following traffic or instruct aircraft in the pattern to extend for a pilot trying to depart. The reporter said the issue was brought to the attention of the airport advisory about 6 to 8 months ago. The board responded that they would look in to it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR CLAIMS ARPT EMPLOYEES AT SEZ ARE RPTED TO BE USING THE UNICOM RADIO TO CTL ACFT.
Narrative: I LANDED BEHIND A CESSNA 182. THERE WAS AN ACFT (PIPER) WAITING TO TAKE OFF ON RWY 3 AFTER I CLRED THE RWY. THERE WAS A CESSNA 172 ABOUT 3 MILES OUT FOR RWY 3. THE PIPER ANNOUNCED HE WAS TAKING THE RWY TO TKOF AFTER ME, AND ONE OF THE ARPT SERVICE PERSONNEL MADE A RADIO TRANSMISSION COMMANDING THE PIPER TO HOLD SHORT DUE TO TFC ON FINAL. I KNOW SEDONA WANTS TO GET AN ATC CTL TWR, BUT SENDING RAMP FUELING PERSONNEL OUT WITH TRUCKS AND RADIOS IS NOT THE WAY TO DO IT. EVEN IF THIS HAD BEEN A CLOSE SITUATION, WHICH IT WAS NOT, IT SETS A BAD HABIT PATTERN FOR TIMES WHICH MIGHT BE CRITICAL. BOTTOM LINE: ATC MUST ONLY BE DONE BY TRAINED, QUALIFIED CTLRS! NOT FUELERS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED SOME EMPLOYEES AT SEZ ARE ISSUING CTL INSTRUCTIONS TO PLTS ON THE UNICOM FREQ. HE HAS HEARD ARPT EMPLOYEES ON BUSY WEEK-ENDS INSTRUCT PLTS TO LAND LONG BECAUSE OF FOLLOWING TFC OR INSTRUCT ACFT IN THE PATTERN TO EXTEND FOR A PLT TRYING TO DEPART. THE RPTR SAID THE ISSUE WAS BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE ARPT ADVISORY ABOUT 6 TO 8 MONTHS AGO. THE BOARD RESPONDED THAT THEY WOULD LOOK IN TO IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.