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Attributes | |
ACN | 524800 |
Time | |
Date | 200109 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : teddy |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 1354 |
ASRS Report | 524800 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Descending to cross teddy at 11000 ft, ZAU questioned cleared altitude. We told 11000 ft. He thought we had been cleared to 13000 ft. We leveled at 11000 ft and were given vectors for traffic. When we asked later, the controller was not sure who was at fault. We were sure he had given us 11000 ft, but he was pretty sure he gave us 13000 ft. He said it was no problem. It was at a time he was just starting to put people into hold at teddy including ourselves. He had given us 13000 ft at one time, but then cleared us to 11000 ft later.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN A320 FLT CREW AND ZAU ARTCC HAVE CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT ALT THE ACFT WAS CLRED TO.
Narrative: DSNDING TO CROSS TEDDY AT 11000 FT, ZAU QUESTIONED CLRED ALT. WE TOLD 11000 FT. HE THOUGHT WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO 13000 FT. WE LEVELED AT 11000 FT AND WERE GIVEN VECTORS FOR TFC. WHEN WE ASKED LATER, THE CTLR WAS NOT SURE WHO WAS AT FAULT. WE WERE SURE HE HAD GIVEN US 11000 FT, BUT HE WAS PRETTY SURE HE GAVE US 13000 FT. HE SAID IT WAS NO PROB. IT WAS AT A TIME HE WAS JUST STARTING TO PUT PEOPLE INTO HOLD AT TEDDY INCLUDING OURSELVES. HE HAD GIVEN US 13000 FT AT ONE TIME, BUT THEN CLRED US TO 11000 FT LATER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.