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Attributes | |
ACN | 524968 |
Time | |
Date | 200109 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cle.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zab.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 135 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 187 flight time total : 1816 flight time type : 196 |
ASRS Report | 524968 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time type : 40 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We had just departed cle for ric on air carrier X. We were at 5000 ft MSL, 240 KIAS on radar vectors. We were then cleared up to 6000 ft. My relatively new captain added too much thrust causing aircraft to accelerate pat 250 KIAS. This caused an overspd warning, an excessive climb rate. Seconds later, due to our high closure rate with crossing traffic, a TCASII RA sounded. The inability to silence either of these aural warnings caused my captain to become distraction and he climbed through our cleared altitude to approximately 6500 ft or 6600 ft. I did not notice his altitude because I was looking for the crossing traffic. Looking back, I should have said something when the captain initially added thrust. I knew it was too much, but until this event, I never thought I would be giving advice on technique to my captain. I have less than 200 hours in type, but the captain had less than 40 hours.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB135 CAPT OVERSHOT ASSIGNED ALT CAUSING TCASII RA WITH ACFT ABOVE. CAPT NOTICED HIS OVERSIGHT AND RETURNED TO ASSIGNED.
Narrative: WE HAD JUST DEPARTED CLE FOR RIC ON ACR X. WE WERE AT 5000 FT MSL, 240 KIAS ON RADAR VECTORS. WE WERE THEN CLRED UP TO 6000 FT. MY RELATIVELY NEW CAPT ADDED TOO MUCH THRUST CAUSING ACFT TO ACCELERATE PAT 250 KIAS. THIS CAUSED AN OVERSPD WARNING, AN EXCESSIVE CLB RATE. SECONDS LATER, DUE TO OUR HIGH CLOSURE RATE WITH XING TFC, A TCASII RA SOUNDED. THE INABILITY TO SILENCE EITHER OF THESE AURAL WARNINGS CAUSED MY CAPT TO BECOME DISTR AND HE CLBED THROUGH OUR CLRED ALT TO APPROX 6500 FT OR 6600 FT. I DID NOT NOTICE HIS ALT BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING FOR THE XING TFC. LOOKING BACK, I SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING WHEN THE CAPT INITIALLY ADDED THRUST. I KNEW IT WAS TOO MUCH, BUT UNTIL THIS EVENT, I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD BE GIVING ADVICE ON TECHNIQUE TO MY CAPT. I HAVE LESS THAN 200 HRS IN TYPE, BUT THE CAPT HAD LESS THAN 40 HRS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.