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Attributes | |
ACN | 526634 |
Time | |
Date | 200110 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 750 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : oma.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | J3 Cub |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 526634 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | other personnel other |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other other : 2 (faa inspector) |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departed VFR for flight training in (non-electric) cub. Was told on return by FAA that a transponder is required per fdc NOTAM. I have carefully read that NOTAM and it clearly says 'additionally this definition does not change the associated rules and/or services prescribed for the underlying/overlying airspace.' thus a non-electrical system cub would need no transponder.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: J3 PIPER CUB PLT BELIEVED THAT HE WAS PERMITTED TO FLY IN THE FDC NOTAMED AIRSPACE WITHOUT A XPONDER SINCE THE NOTAM COMMENTED THAT ASSOCIATED RULES IN THE AIRSPACE WERE NOT CHANGED BY THE NOTAM.
Narrative: DEPARTED VFR FOR FLT TRAINING IN (NON-ELECTRIC) CUB. WAS TOLD ON RETURN BY FAA THAT A XPONDER IS REQUIRED PER FDC NOTAM. I HAVE CAREFULLY READ THAT NOTAM AND IT CLEARLY SAYS 'ADDITIONALLY THIS DEFINITION DOES NOT CHANGE THE ASSOCIATED RULES AND/OR SERVICES PRESCRIBED FOR THE UNDERLYING/OVERLYING AIRSPACE.' THUS A NON-ELECTRICAL SYSTEM CUB WOULD NEED NO XPONDER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.