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Attributes | |
ACN | 526944 |
Time | |
Date | 200110 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 22r other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 526944 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic flight crew : executed go around |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Location: ILS runway 22R, approximately 8 NM from ord approach conducting an ILS runway 22R to ord. We were vectored in very close behind the aircraft ahead of us. Initially VMC, we descended into IMC. TCASII had the traffic at about 2 NM. We were instructed to maintain 180 KTS then 170 KTS. Our distance was not increasing so we slowed to 160 KTS then 150 KTS and by the time we hit the FAF we were doing 140 KTS. The radios were very busy as usual and we did not tell the approach controller of our speed. He queried us at about this time and we told him 140 KTS, at which point he directed our go around and said we should have told him our speed. At the time we were directed to go around, our distance did not appear to increase with the traffic ahead. Had I not felt punished by the controller for slowing down, the early wave-off was a prudent idea in light of the fact that a lower altitude wave-off in IMC was almost certain due to the close proximity of the aircraft ahead.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN S80 PIC RPT ON A TFC SPACING PROB THAT WAS RESOLVED WITH A GAR CALLED FOR BY THE APCH CTLR AT ORD, IL.
Narrative: LOCATION: ILS RWY 22R, APPROX 8 NM FROM ORD APCH CONDUCTING AN ILS RWY 22R TO ORD. WE WERE VECTORED IN VERY CLOSE BEHIND THE ACFT AHEAD OF US. INITIALLY VMC, WE DSNDED INTO IMC. TCASII HAD THE TFC AT ABOUT 2 NM. WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO MAINTAIN 180 KTS THEN 170 KTS. OUR DISTANCE WAS NOT INCREASING SO WE SLOWED TO 160 KTS THEN 150 KTS AND BY THE TIME WE HIT THE FAF WE WERE DOING 140 KTS. THE RADIOS WERE VERY BUSY AS USUAL AND WE DID NOT TELL THE APCH CTLR OF OUR SPD. HE QUERIED US AT ABOUT THIS TIME AND WE TOLD HIM 140 KTS, AT WHICH POINT HE DIRECTED OUR GAR AND SAID WE SHOULD HAVE TOLD HIM OUR SPD. AT THE TIME WE WERE DIRECTED TO GO AROUND, OUR DISTANCE DID NOT APPEAR TO INCREASE WITH THE TFC AHEAD. HAD I NOT FELT PUNISHED BY THE CTLR FOR SLOWING DOWN, THE EARLY WAVE-OFF WAS A PRUDENT IDEA IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT A LOWER ALT WAVE-OFF IN IMC WAS ALMOST CERTAIN DUE TO THE CLOSE PROX OF THE ACFT AHEAD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.