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Attributes | |
ACN | 528949 |
Time | |
Date | 200110 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : syr.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 4300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Ice |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : syr.tracon tower : jqf.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 240 |
ASRS Report | 528949 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 9230 flight time type : 260 |
ASRS Report | 528568 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe ground encounters other inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Weather FAA Aircraft |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
On descent into syr, runway 28 vector, cleared to maintain 3600 ft MSL. Moderate rime icing was encountered going through approximately 5500 ft MSL. At 4500 ft MSL, we received a 'terrain' ground proximity warning and 'pull up.' by 4300 ft, we were transitioned to a GPWS escape maneuver. The warning continued until we had climbed to 7000 ft MSL, and were certain that we were well above any local terrain. At that point, I asked the PNF to deactivate the aural warning and notify approach control of the situation. We then continued the approach to a normal landing. At the beginning of the climb from 4300 ft, I was able to verify that my altimeter was correctly set at 30.08 inches and that the first officer's altimeter corresponded to mine. I also noted the radio altimeter indicating 410 ft AGL. During the subsequent normal approach, the controller stated that other aircraft had experienced similar circumstances in the same area. Initially I suspected a problem with one or both radar altimeters, but the same aircraft functioned normally before and after this flight. Apparently, the combination of GPWS system and the flight path in this geographical point produced the spurious warning. Maybe it should be noted to airmen in some appropriate manner. Supplemental information from acn 528568: at approximately 4500 ft we received a GPWS warning (aural/visual) too low terrain. By 4300 ft, we were climbing in compliance with alerts: RA 4100 ft with intermittent 1100 ft RA. The captain continued climbing as I contacted ATC to state our intentions, required a higher altitude and vectors to comply with GPWS which continued till we went on top at 7300 ft and I disabled the alerts.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN F28 CREW, DSNDING INTO SYR, RECEIVED A GPWS WARNING, 'TOO LOW TERRAIN' WITH A 'PULL UP' COMMAND.
Narrative: ON DSCNT INTO SYR, RWY 28 VECTOR, CLRED TO MAINTAIN 3600 FT MSL. MODERATE RIME ICING WAS ENCOUNTERED GOING THROUGH APPROX 5500 FT MSL. AT 4500 FT MSL, WE RECEIVED A 'TERRAIN' GND PROX WARNING AND 'PULL UP.' BY 4300 FT, WE WERE TRANSITIONED TO A GPWS ESCAPE MANEUVER. THE WARNING CONTINUED UNTIL WE HAD CLBED TO 7000 FT MSL, AND WERE CERTAIN THAT WE WERE WELL ABOVE ANY LCL TERRAIN. AT THAT POINT, I ASKED THE PNF TO DEACTIVATE THE AURAL WARNING AND NOTIFY APCH CTL OF THE SIT. WE THEN CONTINUED THE APCH TO A NORMAL LNDG. AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CLB FROM 4300 FT, I WAS ABLE TO VERIFY THAT MY ALTIMETER WAS CORRECTLY SET AT 30.08 INCHES AND THAT THE FO'S ALTIMETER CORRESPONDED TO MINE. I ALSO NOTED THE RADIO ALTIMETER INDICATING 410 FT AGL. DURING THE SUBSEQUENT NORMAL APCH, THE CTLR STATED THAT OTHER ACFT HAD EXPERIENCED SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE SAME AREA. INITIALLY I SUSPECTED A PROB WITH ONE OR BOTH RADAR ALTIMETERS, BUT THE SAME ACFT FUNCTIONED NORMALLY BEFORE AND AFTER THIS FLT. APPARENTLY, THE COMBINATION OF GPWS SYS AND THE FLT PATH IN THIS GEOGRAPHICAL POINT PRODUCED THE SPURIOUS WARNING. MAYBE IT SHOULD BE NOTED TO AIRMEN IN SOME APPROPRIATE MANNER. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 528568: AT APPROX 4500 FT WE RECEIVED A GPWS WARNING (AURAL/VISUAL) TOO LOW TERRAIN. BY 4300 FT, WE WERE CLBING IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALERTS: RA 4100 FT WITH INTERMITTENT 1100 FT RA. THE CAPT CONTINUED CLBING AS I CONTACTED ATC TO STATE OUR INTENTIONS, REQUIRED A HIGHER ALT AND VECTORS TO COMPLY WITH GPWS WHICH CONTINUED TILL WE WENT ON TOP AT 7300 FT AND I DISABLED THE ALERTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.