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Attributes | |
ACN | 530702 |
Time | |
Date | 200111 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sequ.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Weather Elements | Fog |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 295 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sequ.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | F28 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 1800 flight time total : 16700 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 530702 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer technician : airframe technician : powerplant |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1300 |
ASRS Report | 530703 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : landed as precaution |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Airport ATC Human Performance ATC Facility Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Quito tower cleared aircraft Y, an F28, into position for takeoff in spanish. Our crew was unaware of this as we were on final segment of ILS approach. Fog was obscuring the runway from our vantage point and we were told to report the middle marker. At the middle marker, we saw the aircraft (F28) approximately 2000 ft down the runway accelerating past 80 KTS. At approximately 100 ft ATC gave us landing clearance while the F28 was still rolling. We advised to the tower we were unable to execute a go around safely due to terrain restrs, and the SID/missed approach procedure being identical. The crew elected to continue the landing while the F28 was still on the runway. We felt that our light landing weight (198000 kilograms) we would have been in a safer situation with 2000-3000 ft separation on the runway, in the unlikely event of an abort by the F28. A normal landing resulted with no further events. F28 continued takeoff without incident. Upon conference with control tower, F28 was cleared for takeoff while we called the OM. Aircraft Y apparently delayed takeoff with no ATC communication. Language may have been factor. Communications should have been in english. Supplemental information from acn 530703: possible solutions, that all communication should have been in english. We could have been given a go around sooner, with aircraft Y being told to abort takeoff. The F28 should not have delayed their takeoff roll, but once they did they should have had takeoff clearance canceled.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B742 CREW LANDED AT SEQU WHILE DEPARTING ACFT WAS STILL ON THE RWY.
Narrative: QUITO TWR CLRED ACFT Y, AN F28, INTO POS FOR TKOF IN SPANISH. OUR CREW WAS UNAWARE OF THIS AS WE WERE ON FINAL SEGMENT OF ILS APCH. FOG WAS OBSCURING THE RWY FROM OUR VANTAGE POINT AND WE WERE TOLD TO RPT THE MIDDLE MARKER. AT THE MIDDLE MARKER, WE SAW THE ACFT (F28) APPROX 2000 FT DOWN THE RWY ACCELERATING PAST 80 KTS. AT APPROX 100 FT ATC GAVE US LNDG CLRNC WHILE THE F28 WAS STILL ROLLING. WE ADVISED TO THE TWR WE WERE UNABLE TO EXECUTE A GAR SAFELY DUE TO TERRAIN RESTRS, AND THE SID/MISSED APCH PROC BEING IDENTICAL. THE CREW ELECTED TO CONTINUE THE LNDG WHILE THE F28 WAS STILL ON THE RWY. WE FELT THAT OUR LIGHT LNDG WT (198000 KILOGRAMS) WE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN A SAFER SIT WITH 2000-3000 FT SEPARATION ON THE RWY, IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT OF AN ABORT BY THE F28. A NORMAL LNDG RESULTED WITH NO FURTHER EVENTS. F28 CONTINUED TKOF WITHOUT INCIDENT. UPON CONFERENCE WITH CTL TWR, F28 WAS CLRED FOR TKOF WHILE WE CALLED THE OM. ACFT Y APPARENTLY DELAYED TKOF WITH NO ATC COM. LANGUAGE MAY HAVE BEEN FACTOR. COMS SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN ENGLISH. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 530703: POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS, THAT ALL COM SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN ENGLISH. WE COULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN A GAR SOONER, WITH ACFT Y BEING TOLD TO ABORT TKOF. THE F28 SHOULD NOT HAVE DELAYED THEIR TKOF ROLL, BUT ONCE THEY DID THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD TKOF CLRNC CANCELED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.