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Attributes | |
ACN | 530775 |
Time | |
Date | 200111 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : myf.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : myf.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude climbout : initial cruise : level |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 35 flight time total : 2900 flight time type : 35 |
ASRS Report | 530775 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | other personnel |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Prior to leaving for the airport, I called FSS for WX briefing and expressed my concern for exiting the overlaying TCA. WX from montgomery field (myf) to bullhead laughlin was clear with no flight advisories. The specialist that I talked to said I should have no problem with the TCA although it had been expanded to cover additional airspace. He advised that as long as I didnT loiter or circle sensitive areas and kept moving, there should be no problem and suggested I receive a clearance from ATC before departure. I contacted myf clearance delivery and was told a clearance was not required for my departure. Tower gave me a right downwind departure and upon takeoff a frequency for socal approach. I contacted ATC and was told to call back in seven mins. In approximately five mins they contacted me, gave me a transponder code and asked me to come to 100 degrees which was in line with the right downwind departure from runway 28R I had just departed. I was at 3000 ft AGL and told not to exceed 3500 ft. I remained at 3000 ft and was directed to come to 060 degrees and cleared to 4500 ft. During the climb I was informed I was clear of the class B airspace and cleared to climb unrestr to 5500 ft and given a frequency change. Upon contacting the new frequency, the controller informed me that I had entered the class B airspace without clearance and that was a nono. I explained that I was aware of class B airspace entry requirements. At the time this all transpired, the controller facility was informing other pilots of a problem at mcclellan palomar with all of their operations being sent to his sector and causing an additional workload.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SMA PLT , DEPARTING MYF, WAS TOLD BY ONE CTLR HE WAS CLR OF CLASS B AIRSPACE, THEN WAS INFORMED BY THE NEXT CTLR HE HAD VIOLATED CLASS B AIRSPACE.
Narrative: PRIOR TO LEAVING FOR THE ARPT, I CALLED FSS FOR WX BRIEFING AND EXPRESSED MY CONCERN FOR EXITING THE OVERLAYING TCA. WX FROM MONTGOMERY FIELD (MYF) TO BULLHEAD LAUGHLIN WAS CLR WITH NO FLT ADVISORIES. THE SPECIALIST THAT I TALKED TO SAID I SHOULD HAVE NO PROB WITH THE TCA ALTHOUGH IT HAD BEEN EXPANDED TO COVER ADDITIONAL AIRSPACE. HE ADVISED THAT AS LONG AS I DIDNT LOITER OR CIRCLE SENSITIVE AREAS AND KEPT MOVING, THERE SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM AND SUGGESTED I RECEIVE A CLRNC FROM ATC BEFORE DEP. I CONTACTED MYF CLRNC DELIVERY AND WAS TOLD A CLRNC WAS NOT REQUIRED FOR MY DEP. TWR GAVE ME A R DOWNWIND DEP AND UPON TKOF A FREQUENCY FOR SOCAL APCH. I CONTACTED ATC AND WAS TOLD TO CALL BACK IN SEVEN MINS. IN APPROX FIVE MINS THEY CONTACTED ME, GAVE ME A XPONDER CODE AND ASKED ME TO COME TO 100 DEGS WHICH WAS IN LINE WITH THE R DOWNWIND DEP FROM RWY 28R I HAD JUST DEPARTED. I WAS AT 3000 FT AGL AND TOLD NOT TO EXCEED 3500 FT. I REMAINED AT 3000 FT AND WAS DIRECTED TO COME TO 060 DEGS AND CLRED TO 4500 FT. DURING THE CLIMB I WAS INFORMED I WAS CLR OF THE CLASS B AIRSPACE AND CLRED TO CLIMB UNRESTR TO 5500 FT AND GIVEN A FREQ CHANGE. UPON CONTACTING THE NEW FREQUENCY, THE CTLR INFORMED ME THAT I HAD ENTERED THE CLASS B AIRSPACE WITHOUT CLRNC AND THAT WAS A NONO. I EXPLAINED THAT I WAS AWARE OF CLASS B AIRSPACE ENTRY REQUIREMENTS. AT THE TIME THIS ALL TRANSPIRED, THE CTLR FACILITY WAS INFORMING OTHER PLTS OF A PROB AT MCCLELLAN PALOMAR WITH ALL OF THEIR OPS BEING SENT TO HIS SECTOR AND CAUSING AN ADDITIONAL WORKLOAD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.