A corporate turbojet crew, after landing at cyul, taxied past a hold short line.

Attributes
ACN	531667
Time
Date	200112
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : cyul.airport
State Reference	PQ
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : cyul.tower
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Gulfstream IV
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : cyul.tower
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Flight Phase	descent : approach landing : go around
Person 1
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : multi engine
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2300
ASRS Report	531667
Person 2
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory flight crew : executed go around flight crew : became reoriented
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance Airport Aircraft
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

On dec/mon/2001 aircraft X departed sjc at XA45 and arrived at cyul XF05. It was night VFR with visibility greater than 5 miles. The runway that I lnded on was runway 24L. I exited the runway at A2. Aircraft X was then cleared to taxi via 'a' and 'A3' to the GA ramp and hold short of runway 24L. During the taxi on taxiway 'a' our right thrust reverser would not deploy after several attempts. (Normally used during taxi to slow down the aircraft.) this was now a no-go situation for our next scheduled departure of XG30. The third pilot that was sitting in the jump seat asked me for the cell phone that was on the captain's side console, so that he could call our main operations. I reached there but could not feel for it. Then there was some discussion between the 3 pilots on its location. Again the 3RD pilot asked for the phone. I had even said that I can't get it now because I was taxiing the aircraft, that I should stop, but by now the 3RD pilot had gotten the flashlight out so I went ahead and looked. The right turn from 'a' to A3 was a 135 degree turn and the hold line was within approximately a couple hundred ft instead of just before the runway. I passed the hold line and continued, as we got closer to the runway my copilot told me to stop. I did stop 50 to 100 ft short of the runway. At that time ground control came over the radio and asked if we were going to hold short. My copilot answered yes. Ground replied that you are past the hold line, and too close to the runway that I had to send an aircraft around. Both of us looked to the edge of the taxiway. We thought we saw a double yellow line, although it did not extend a cross the taxiway. I then asked my copilot if we could do 180 degree turn to get further away, but at that time I saw the aircraft about 800 ft overhead going around. My attention was diverted between the aircraft problem and the cell phone and not on taxiing the aircraft. I should have stopped the aircraft like I had said. I should have had better communication with my copilot. I also should have reviewed the taxi chart prior to landing, during our in range briefing.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A CORPORATE TURBOJET CREW, AFTER LNDG AT CYUL, TAXIED PAST A HOLD SHORT LINE.

Narrative: ON DEC/MON/2001 ACFT X DEPARTED SJC AT XA45 AND ARRIVED AT CYUL XF05. IT WAS NIGHT VFR WITH VISIBILITY GREATER THAN 5 MILES. THE RWY THAT I LNDED ON WAS RWY 24L. I EXITED THE RWY AT A2. ACFT X WAS THEN CLRED TO TAXI VIA 'A' AND 'A3' TO THE GA RAMP AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 24L. DURING THE TAXI ON TXWY 'A' OUR RIGHT THRUST REVERSER WOULD NOT DEPLOY AFTER SEVERAL ATTEMPTS. (NORMALLY USED DURING TAXI TO SLOW DOWN THE ACFT.) THIS WAS NOW A NO-GO SIT FOR OUR NEXT SCHEDULED DEP OF XG30. THE THIRD PLT THAT WAS SITTING IN THE JUMP SEAT ASKED ME FOR THE CELL PHONE THAT WAS ON THE CAPT'S SIDE CONSOLE, SO THAT HE COULD CALL OUR MAIN OPS. I REACHED THERE BUT COULD NOT FEEL FOR IT. THEN THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE 3 PLTS ON ITS LOCATION. AGAIN THE 3RD PLT ASKED FOR THE PHONE. I HAD EVEN SAID THAT I CAN'T GET IT NOW BECAUSE I WAS TAXIING THE ACFT, THAT I SHOULD STOP, BUT BY NOW THE 3RD PLT HAD GOTTEN THE FLASHLIGHT OUT SO I WENT AHEAD AND LOOKED. THE RIGHT TURN FROM 'A' TO A3 WAS A 135 DEG TURN AND THE HOLD LINE WAS WITHIN APPROX A COUPLE HUNDRED FT INSTEAD OF JUST BEFORE THE RWY. I PASSED THE HOLD LINE AND CONTINUED, AS WE GOT CLOSER TO THE RWY MY COPLT TOLD ME TO STOP. I DID STOP 50 TO 100 FT SHORT OF THE RWY. AT THAT TIME GND CTL CAME OVER THE RADIO AND ASKED IF WE WERE GOING TO HOLD SHORT. MY COPLT ANSWERED YES. GND REPLIED THAT YOU ARE PAST THE HOLD LINE, AND TOO CLOSE TO THE RWY THAT I HAD TO SEND AN ACFT AROUND. BOTH OF US LOOKED TO THE EDGE OF THE TXWY. WE THOUGHT WE SAW A DOUBLE YELLOW LINE, ALTHOUGH IT DID NOT EXTEND A CROSS THE TXWY. I THEN ASKED MY COPLT IF WE COULD DO 180 DEG TURN TO GET FURTHER AWAY, BUT AT THAT TIME I SAW THE ACFT ABOUT 800 FT OVERHEAD GOING AROUND. MY ATTENTION WAS DIVERTED BTWN THE ACFT PROB AND THE CELL PHONE AND NOT ON TAXIING THE ACFT. I SHOULD HAVE STOPPED THE ACFT LIKE I HAD SAID. I SHOULD HAVE HAD BETTER COM WITH MY COPLT. I ALSO SHOULD HAVE REVIEWED THE TAXI CHART PRIOR TO LNDG, DURING OUR IN RANGE BRIEFING.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.