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Attributes | |
ACN | 532139 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cyul.airport |
State Reference | PQ |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : cyul.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing : missed approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 532139 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After landing at nighttime, we were given instructions by the ground controller to taxi and hold short of the runway we just landed on (for a cross back over to the FBO). As we were taxiing, we noticed a problem with our right thrust reverser. In an attempt to analyze our problem and deal with communication to our mechanics and office, we became somewhat distraction. In our very slow taxiing, we turned on a reverse high speed taxiway, and saw faint lines, but the hold short lines were not on the airport diagram, and they were at a great distance from the runway still. We proceeded to hold short of the runway, looking for the runway hold short lines, but they never came up, so we stopped well before the runway. After we stopped, the ground controllers confirmed we were holding short of the runway, informed us we were past the hold short line, and that an airliner would have to do a high altitude cautionary missed approach. This was a classic example of not maintaining priorities with the aircraft in motion. This was also a lesson in the fact that you should confirm that which seems unusual or questionable.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER LNDG, CPR JET CREW BECAME DISTR WITH A THRUST REVERSER AND CROSSED RWY HOLD SHORT LINES.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG AT NIGHTTIME, WE WERE GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS BY THE GND CTLR TO TAXI AND HOLD SHORT OF THE RWY WE JUST LANDED ON (FOR A CROSS BACK OVER TO THE FBO). AS WE WERE TAXIING, WE NOTICED A PROB WITH OUR R THRUST REVERSER. IN AN ATTEMPT TO ANALYZE OUR PROB AND DEAL WITH COM TO OUR MECHS AND OFFICE, WE BECAME SOMEWHAT DISTR. IN OUR VERY SLOW TAXIING, WE TURNED ON A REVERSE HIGH SPD TXWY, AND SAW FAINT LINES, BUT THE HOLD SHORT LINES WERE NOT ON THE ARPT DIAGRAM, AND THEY WERE AT A GREAT DISTANCE FROM THE RWY STILL. WE PROCEEDED TO HOLD SHORT OF THE RWY, LOOKING FOR THE RWY HOLD SHORT LINES, BUT THEY NEVER CAME UP, SO WE STOPPED WELL BEFORE THE RWY. AFTER WE STOPPED, THE GND CTLRS CONFIRMED WE WERE HOLDING SHORT OF THE RWY, INFORMED US WE WERE PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE, AND THAT AN AIRLINER WOULD HAVE TO DO A HIGH ALT CAUTIONARY MISSED APCH. THIS WAS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF NOT MAINTAINING PRIORITIES WITH THE ACFT IN MOTION. THIS WAS ALSO A LESSON IN THE FACT THAT YOU SHOULD CONFIRM THAT WHICH SEEMS UNUSUAL OR QUESTIONABLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.