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Attributes | |
ACN | 532143 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : yeagr |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9300 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | BAe 125 Series 1000 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : dumpy |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 532143 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared direct to the yeagr intersection on the dumpy 2 arrival into dal. We were told to cross yeagr at 9000 ft. Approximately 10 mins later, approach told us to stop our descent at 11000 ft, which we did. We were then approximately 7 mi from yeagr at 11000 ft and 315 KTS. We were then cleared to cross yeagr at 9000 ft. I told approach it was going to be tight to make the restr. Approach advised no problem, just do the best we could. I was the PNF with a junior captain flying. As we approached 10000 ft, I advised him 250 KTS below 10000 ft. He was trying to meet the crossing restr which resulted in the airspeed remaining around 300 KTS. By the time we passed through 10000 ft, our speed was approximately 275 KTS. I again told him 250 KTS below 10000 ft. He finally got the airspeed under control at approximately 9300 ft at 250 KTS. We were switched to next controller and I advised her we had a tight restr. She advised no problem and start slowing to 210 KTS. Neither controller had a problem with us, but I advised the PF that he could have been more aggressive with deploying the airbrakes in an attempt to get rid of the extra speed so we could have been closer to 250 KTS at 10000 ft. It was a tight restr either way (250 KTS at 10000 ft and the crossing restr), but I feel we could have been handled better.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HAWKER 1000 FO DSNDED THROUGH 10000 FT ABOVE THE MAX ALLOWED AIRSPD DUE TO THE SHORT DISTANCE TO THE XING RESTR FROM THE PREVIOUS FIX AT WHICH ATC HAD HELD THEM AT A HIGHER AIRSPD.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED DIRECT TO THE YEAGR INTXN ON THE DUMPY 2 ARR INTO DAL. WE WERE TOLD TO CROSS YEAGR AT 9000 FT. APPROX 10 MINS LATER, APCH TOLD US TO STOP OUR DSCNT AT 11000 FT, WHICH WE DID. WE WERE THEN APPROX 7 MI FROM YEAGR AT 11000 FT AND 315 KTS. WE WERE THEN CLRED TO CROSS YEAGR AT 9000 FT. I TOLD APCH IT WAS GOING TO BE TIGHT TO MAKE THE RESTR. APCH ADVISED NO PROB, JUST DO THE BEST WE COULD. I WAS THE PNF WITH A JUNIOR CAPT FLYING. AS WE APCHED 10000 FT, I ADVISED HIM 250 KTS BELOW 10000 FT. HE WAS TRYING TO MEET THE XING RESTR WHICH RESULTED IN THE AIRSPD REMAINING AROUND 300 KTS. BY THE TIME WE PASSED THROUGH 10000 FT, OUR SPD WAS APPROX 275 KTS. I AGAIN TOLD HIM 250 KTS BELOW 10000 FT. HE FINALLY GOT THE AIRSPD UNDER CTL AT APPROX 9300 FT AT 250 KTS. WE WERE SWITCHED TO NEXT CTLR AND I ADVISED HER WE HAD A TIGHT RESTR. SHE ADVISED NO PROB AND START SLOWING TO 210 KTS. NEITHER CTLR HAD A PROB WITH US, BUT I ADVISED THE PF THAT HE COULD HAVE BEEN MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH DEPLOYING THE AIRBRAKES IN AN ATTEMPT TO GET RID OF THE EXTRA SPD SO WE COULD HAVE BEEN CLOSER TO 250 KTS AT 10000 FT. IT WAS A TIGHT RESTR EITHER WAY (250 KTS AT 10000 FT AND THE XING RESTR), BUT I FEEL WE COULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED BETTER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.