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Attributes | |
ACN | 532952 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phx.airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 532952 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 532954 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Our flight was misloaded with too many bags prior to departure. We calculated how many bags we could take and told our ground agents to remove 49 bags. As we worked to get as many bags as we could on board while being careful to not be overweight, my first officer inadvertently made a mistake on our weight and balance manifest. Rather than rounding down 825 pounds to 800, which would have been the correct procedure, he included the 25 pounds into the adjusted weight unit, making it 825.8 when it should have been 805.8. The problem is that the last 3 digits are an index, not weight. When he finished the weight and balance manifest, he gave it to me to sign. I reviewed it and did not notice the error. As a result, our zero fuel weight index was plotted 20 units aft of where it actually should have been, as was the gross takeoff weight. The net result was we appeared to be well within our zero fuel and takeoff envelopes, but were actually 2 units in front of the forward zero fuel index limit and 1 unit forward of the gross takeoff weight index limit. We took off this way and with the exception of having our pitch trim set for the wrong center of gravity index the flight proceeded uneventfully to its destination. The problem may have been avoided with better (more) training in ground schools about the weight and balance manifest and if I flew more often, I may have noticed the mistake prior to departure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CARJ FLC, DEPARTING PHX, MADE A MISTAKE ON THE WT AND BAL MANIFEST, PUTTING THEM OUT OF CTR OF GRAVITY LIMITS.
Narrative: OUR FLT WAS MISLOADED WITH TOO MANY BAGS PRIOR TO DEP. WE CALCULATED HOW MANY BAGS WE COULD TAKE AND TOLD OUR GND AGENTS TO REMOVE 49 BAGS. AS WE WORKED TO GET AS MANY BAGS AS WE COULD ON BOARD WHILE BEING CAREFUL TO NOT BE OVERWT, MY FO INADVERTENTLY MADE A MISTAKE ON OUR WT AND BAL MANIFEST. RATHER THAN ROUNDING DOWN 825 LBS TO 800, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN THE CORRECT PROC, HE INCLUDED THE 25 LBS INTO THE ADJUSTED WT UNIT, MAKING IT 825.8 WHEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 805.8. THE PROB IS THAT THE LAST 3 DIGITS ARE AN INDEX, NOT WT. WHEN HE FINISHED THE WT AND BAL MANIFEST, HE GAVE IT TO ME TO SIGN. I REVIEWED IT AND DID NOT NOTICE THE ERROR. AS A RESULT, OUR ZERO FUEL WT INDEX WAS PLOTTED 20 UNITS AFT OF WHERE IT ACTUALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN, AS WAS THE GROSS TKOF WT. THE NET RESULT WAS WE APPEARED TO BE WELL WITHIN OUR ZERO FUEL AND TKOF ENVELOPES, BUT WERE ACTUALLY 2 UNITS IN FRONT OF THE FORWARD ZERO FUEL INDEX LIMIT AND 1 UNIT FORWARD OF THE GROSS TKOF WT INDEX LIMIT. WE TOOK OFF THIS WAY AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HAVING OUR PITCH TRIM SET FOR THE WRONG CTR OF GRAVITY INDEX THE FLT PROCEEDED UNEVENTFULLY TO ITS DEST. THE PROB MAY HAVE BEEN AVOIDED WITH BETTER (MORE) TRAINING IN GND SCHOOLS ABOUT THE WT AND BAL MANIFEST AND IF I FLEW MORE OFTEN, I MAY HAVE NOTICED THE MISTAKE PRIOR TO DEP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.